Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Current Mining Implementation:
*Asteroids have only 1 ore type ex Veld, Dense Veld, Spod
*Asteroids have an exact amount of units that can be pulled from the rock
*Survey Scanner can be used to see how many units in the asteroid
*Very easy to determine isk/hr - no real "reward" feeling


Some ideas for change:
*No more single ore Asteroids
**Survey scanner used on an asteroid will show veins in the rock
****get a pop up that looks similar to hacking window
***target the vein itself
****low quality lasers have very little effect on high end ores
******example: Miner I > arkonor vein has very little yeild (If any) but high waste of units in the Asteroid
10 units in the vein - 1 unti mined 9 units wasted
****Severe penalties for off crystal strip miners example: Veldspar mining crystal used on a Arkonor Vein will have a high waste factor
*****High reward for correct crystals example: Arkonor crystal on an Arkonor Vein
*Can target different veins on the same Asteroid simultaneously

Add reward to mining
*Once a vein is used up a new vein may open up in the asteroid
**possible better ores closer to the center of the asteroid
**new types of super high yield ore - very rare spawn - think faction spawn for miners
**more veins per rock the lower security space you get into

Better mining cycles
*Have mining lasers charge up
**Mining lasers start with lower yields close to the start of a cycle
**mining amount grows until reaches optimal amount
**Stays at optimal until lasers are deactivated - continues until next cycle unless shut down
**More "collection" ticks - not just when the cycle ends


I think this would make a much more interesting experience. Afking would be a lot less profitable since you would need to target the veins themselves, and have the correct crystals. Stripping out just the most valuable ores in a belt would be impossible. Let me know what you all think!

ps Sorry for the formatting

If it made life harder for multi boxers and made it to where corps and alliances value the miners then I would consider that a win.

No need to troll. It is a very legitimate part of the game that has had no love.

As a miner, the only thing that I can complain about is the lack of diversity when it comes to mining. Combat players get hundreds of hulls and five different weapon types. Miners get 8 dedicated mining hulls and 2 dedicated support hulls (I don't consider haulers dedicated miner support), and only three "weapon" types (not counting specialty mining systems like ice and gas).

I would like to see the partial cycle system removed and changed to the same system as damage modules. when you try to stop it early it just finishes that cycle and ends. Combine this with additional ships that get barge/exhumer yield using standard mining lasers or drones would allow for additional ships to choose from.

In general the idea would be to have standard mining lasers with fast cycle times and low cycle yield that would be better at mining small asteroids but would require more attention. Barges/exhumers that have slow cycle times and large cycle yields that are better at mining large asteroids. And drone boats just for the fact that I personally love drones .

That sounds incredibly boring, and is unrealistic.





I don't think you know what a vein is...

A vein is a layer of ore between layers of rock .... So the idea would be once you drill through a vein, you may have access to a new vein of ore or multiple new veins until all veins are exhausted. One that could not be seen by the scanner before the first vein was completed allowing some surprise and to keep people from cherry picking asteroids.

Missions are static and unchanging as well. The same mission will be almost the exact same each time you run it. They also need a change but that just isn't the topic I wanted to post ideas on at this time. I just wanted to select a single topic and discuss it with other people who gave their honest opinions and ideas.

While I agree with that other topic as well, what I am trying to point out is that you set a dangerous precedence by insisting that mining requires a mini-game to complete. Once you start adjusting the gameplay in one area, you will have to adjust every similar area in a similar manner to keep the game balanced.

Where will the minerals come from if the number of characters mining is halved?

Thread closed.