Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I hate blobs. They kill the very soul of this game IMO. So in that light here's a suggestion.

Why not have a diminishing return on DPS that gets applied to a ship when attacked by multiple trgts ?

Any damage applied by X number of ships gets reduced, factored by the target size. This could be explained by shells, lasers, missles, etc... hitting each other going into, and at, the target.

I don't claim to know exactly what the soul of EVE is, but it's not about fights being fair. If anything it's about dark and ruthless capitalistic system where everything goes as you try to compete for dominance and survival. Having more people on your side than what your enemies can deploy seems to fit quite well in my version of EVE.

You do also understand, that the blobbers will still win against you in the new system just like they do in the old system. Ignoring the obvious balancing issues, larger numbers is always an advantage and should always be one all other things being equal. If it isn't DPS, it's going to be RR, Ewar, or whatever mechanic you can think of. The people who have been able to make the most out of the current game mechanics aren't going to continue doing what they do now. They'll adapt and still be on the top in the new system and we will be back to square one with these complaints how unfair it is, that others have more allies than some people and how fights against some foes simply can't be won with the resources you have.

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Yet another low wattage bulb thats A: not reading and B: reading into what I said.

Where oh where did I say antyhing about fair ? Please point it out and we'll go from there.

Instead you go on some day trip about capitalism and the "dark and ruthlessness" of the system..Dominance and survival !...Blah blah and so forth and then go to talk about balancing and how it won't matter anyways ?

Are you daft ? People in this game spend BILLIONS on their ships trying to eke out a few extra percentage points of resists, damage, speed, etc.. and yet you say fleets will ignore totally the effect - which is easily explainable and makes sense by the way - of numbers of their shots getting wasted ? Measurable percentages ?

You seem to think I am advocating nullifying one side having more ships than another. Where the hell you get that in my simple statement I haven't the slightest. Thats probably one of the biggest reasons I can think of that people don't post more is that TROLL like creatures with preconceptions spew on other peoples posts, babling about things the poster never. Even. Said.

So kindly point out where I advocated or said what you implied, or retract, please.

Personally I like it.

As it stands any ship regardless of how well tanked is dead as soon as it gets called primary... so why bother with a tank at all, may as well delete the modules from the game. And don't get me started on Armour reps.

IMHO there needs to be something introduced that discourages a 400 VS 1 fight war of attrition every time fleets engage, a 500 man fight should be 40 or 50 separate fights with a unified goal.

This will not diminish blobs. Instead, blobs will simply stop "primarying" targets. You'll end up with either 10 wings targeting 10 different ships, or 10 different fleets targeting 10 different ships. Either way, a larger blob will still defeat a smaller one faster.

Without seriously changing the way eve works, there is absolutely no way to stop blobbing. Human nature is to join together in large groups for security. A bit of a hold back to our herding instincts from long before the monkey days, I would imagine.

You can't fight human nature.

There may be one way to diminish blobbing - change sov such that you must attack multiple targets simultaneously, and any undefended target becomes incredibly easy to kill (i.e. if no ally is on grid with the target when it comes out of reinforced, its hp drops by 90% and stays that low until allies show up. Make up some BS about the crew abandoning it when they realize their masters aren't going to save them). This won't reduce the numbers of the large coalitions but it might (MIGHT) make fights smaller and more numerous (and will certainly make steamrolling alliances that refuse to fight a lot easier)

I'd be surprised if this was done regularly on anything other than supercaps.

Add AOE dmg on ship pop. Down with blobs and pods. Problem solved.

It's been suggested before. Best implementation idea I've seen is to reduce the sig radius of a target being hit by multiple foes. Any remote rep will bloom the sig back up to it's natural state. This would allow DPS application and pressuring of logi to be efffective tactics, and not merely alpha.

It would have to be balanced by ship size (no effect on capitals in particluar) and be PVP only. A lore explanation is easy, since even in RL vaporized material from the target reduces the effectiveness of lasers. Easy to explain how debris and vaporized armor from a ship under fire would interfere with targeting.

Running checks to see if there's anything in these lines will cause servers to catch fire? I suppose if it was as in-depth as I initially stated it would be, maybe, but it doesn't have to START like that. If that's too heavy-duty for servers to handle then it can start with hits occurring like they do now.

Okay, again I am going to point out to the low wattage types that are responding to my original suggestion by quoting or implying that I am somehow trying to fix, make fair, or somehow nullify superior ship numbers...

I did not do that, nor is it in my post at any point. you are reading something that is not there, so either go get some help with reading comprehension or stop friggin posting here. Thank you,

Now to others arguing merits of the idea, thanks for your input and thoughts. my idea is based on what I see as actually happening to and around a ship under fire.

You have a target that has missles, shells and such exploding around it, lasers that are coming in thru a cloud of debris and other solids, etc... These are going to interact to a degree. If you can't picture that happening, well, not sure what I can say about that tbh.

..And no I don't think you would have to calculate every shot coming in. This is why they use algorithms, etc.. I don't wish to see the server burst into flames either.