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[April] Battlecruiser Warp Speed and Warp Rig Tweaks

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2015-04-01 22:42:31 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Fozzie
Hey everyone. We're planning on making a few small tweaks to warp speed mechanics in our April release and we'd love to hear your feedback.

Firstly, we're planning to adjust the warp speed of Battlecruiser sized ships to bring the Battlecruiser-Cruiser relationship in line with the Destroyer-Frigate relationship. We've been discussing this with CSM 9 rep Gorski Car for a little while and we think bringing the BCs in line is a reasonable idea.

This will mean an 8% increase in Battlecruiser warp speed, to 2.7au/s for T1 BCs and 3au/s for Command Ships.

We are also making some tweaks to warp rig penalties. At the moment the two sets of warp rigs have -CPU penalties, which are among the most harsh penalties that rigs in EVE can have.

We are planning to change the penalty on Warp rigs into a Signature Radius increase (like the penalty on shield rigs). This penalty matters quite a bit for large nullsec fleets and small ships (two areas where we want to be cautious about the power level of warp speed rigs) but is much less important for smaller gang activities in large ships, as well as for mission runners. We hope that this change will open up some new interesting fitting options that people will enjoy.

Let us know what you think!

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-04-01 22:43:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
Does T1 include faction BC?
Challus Mercer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-04-01 22:46:05 UTC
Nice! Thx for listening to the community and giving us at least something. Would be very nice to see the same for battleships. They are damn slow at warping :(
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#4 - 2015-04-01 22:48:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Unsuccessful At Everything
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Doomheim
#5 - 2015-04-01 22:54:59 UTC
battlecruiser usage must be low

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Cade Windstalker
#6 - 2015-04-01 22:55:39 UTC
Good changes.

Out of curiosity how commonly are Warp Speed rigs being used? Especially on larger ships.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#7 - 2015-04-01 23:03:45 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Does T1 include faction BC?


Yup.

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#8 - 2015-04-01 23:09:55 UTC
Anything that helps BCs gets a +1 from me. I miss seeing them around. :\

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Anthar Thebess
#9 - 2015-04-01 23:41:09 UTC
Can you also boost their agility and speed?
Tornado/ naga fleet?

Not possible any more because of bombers and interceptors.
Those where very fun fleets.

Ability to counter bombs on those hulls can help bringing them back.
Can we get some decent anti bomber/ bomb weapon? Roll

Many fleet fights are won/lost depending on who first made good bomb run.

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#10 - 2015-04-01 23:49:28 UTC
Better than nothing, I guess? vOv

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#11 - 2015-04-02 00:00:51 UTC
nice... good to know about the increase...

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Terranid Meester
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#12 - 2015-04-02 00:01:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Terranid Meester
Increase combat battlecruiser weapon range and lock range too?

Best anti-bomber tweak is to reduce bomb radius to 5km, keep the ecm and basic neut bomb to 15km.
Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-04-02 00:05:22 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Does T1 include faction BC?


Yup.

I think it would be a good move to improve faction ship warp speeds, perhaps between t2 and t1. It would help further offset their insurance deficit quite a bit, ESPECIALLY if you brought t2 and faction battlecruisers up to cruiser warp speeds all the way.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#14 - 2015-04-02 00:47:55 UTC
LONG overdue. Consider a signature radius reduction across the entire class as well.

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#15 - 2015-04-02 01:00:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
CCP Fozzie wrote:
We are planning to change the penalty on Warp rigs into a Signature Radius increase (like the penalty on shield rigs). This penalty matters quite a bit for large nullsec fleets and small ships (two areas where we want to be cautious about the power level of warp speed rigs) but is much less important for smaller gang activities in large ships, as well as for mission runners. We hope that this change will open up some new interesting fitting options that people will enjoy.

Well, this effectively makes Ascendancy implants much more valuable than rigs since they don't impose a signature penalty. My preference is still the CPU penalty.

Since we're on the subject of warp speed tweaks, can we also get a small bump to battleships as well? 2.2 AU/s for T1/Faction Battleships and 2.4 AU/s for T2 Marauders and Black Ops (the Nestor and Machariel would remain at 2.5 AU/s and 3.0 AU/s, respectively).

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#16 - 2015-04-02 01:10:36 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
LONG overdue. Consider a signature radius reduction across the entire class as well.


That sounds like a very good idea!

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#17 - 2015-04-02 03:07:54 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Can you also boost their agility and speed?
Tornado/ naga fleet?

Not possible any more because of bombers and interceptors.
Those where very fun fleets.

Ability to counter bombs on those hulls can help bringing them back.
Can we get some decent anti bomber/ bomb weapon? Roll

Many fleet fights are won/lost depending on who first made good bomb run.


Overheat mode for MJD on BCs :D allows you to jump away quickly i.e. if someone drops bombs but does random upto say 75% of your base EHP in damage (which if it doesn't kill you is spread randomly over all 3 tanks) to discourage use in fights as you'd randomly explode.

(Not sure if I'm serious or not).
Aiyshimin
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Shadow Cartel
#18 - 2015-04-02 04:10:45 UTC
Warp speed was the least of BC issues and improving it has absolutely no effect on the sad state of BCs.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#19 - 2015-04-02 05:00:27 UTC
Aiyshimin wrote:
Warp speed was the least of BC issues and improving it has absolutely no effect on the sad state of BCs.

It's a start.

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Felter Echerie
Profit Prophets
#20 - 2015-04-02 05:30:00 UTC
Challus Mercer wrote:
Nice! Thx for listening to the community and giving us at least something. Would be very nice to see the same for battleships. They are damn slow at warping :(


nope; they should be slow.
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