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Stealing from the Bears
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Joy Haffa
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-12-24 06:38:18 UTC
So what is your guys best ship and fit for just stealing from miners and mission runners? I just wanna steal no can flipping to gank I am after the loot.
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#2 - 2011-12-24 09:14:44 UTC
Obelisk, as you'll need all the cargo space you can get!
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#3 - 2011-12-24 11:31:48 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Obelisk, as you'll need all the cargo space you can get!


Negative. Get a Rorq and compress it as you go.

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Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#4 - 2011-12-24 11:37:11 UTC
Sigil is definitely the way.
Jorn Isu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-12-24 11:49:17 UTC
Joy Haffa wrote:
So what is your guys best ship and fit for just stealing from miners and mission runners? I just wanna steal no can flipping to gank I am after the loot.

Stealing from mission runners:
http://scopslog.blogspot.com/2010/03/ninja-ships-vigil.html
Something like this is a good idea. The important features are:
-Fast. Must be fast.
-Salvagers: You can make a lot of ISK just salvaging the wrecks, even without stealing (Okay, not a lot, but if you're going to their instances anyway, you should be salvaging)
-Good inertia, for faster aligns
-Cheap. You will blow up. You don't want to ninja salvage in a ship you'll give two thoughts about losing.

For stealing from miners: I'd recommend an industrial. Get up next to the can, align to a station, take the ore and warp. Should be very low risk. Reconsider taking ore if the miner has you locked, it could be bait; he might be one of those hilarious battleminers, who baits nubs and then plinks them to death is a mining ship. (then again, if it's 1m+ in ore and you're in a 500k Indy, maybe go ahead.)
Joy Haffa
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-12-24 13:20:23 UTC
any fits for these indy ships ive always been interested in the combat indy ships. I was thinking cloak and stealth up to the can then swipe it. stack the ship with smart bombs to destroy there drones if they attack me? Or ecm to jam them while i get away.
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-12-24 14:38:55 UTC
no just do it in a probe, if they attack you you lose a 10k isk ship, big deal

try to steal their mission objective then ransom them for like 100m
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#8 - 2011-12-24 15:52:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Magnum
Joy Haffa wrote:
any fits for these indy ships ive always been interested in the combat indy ships. I was thinking cloak and stealth up to the can then swipe it. stack the ship with smart bombs to destroy there drones if they attack me? Or ecm to jam them while i get away.

If you actually pull this off with a T1 industrial then it's because the mission runner was either AFK or they just don't care. With a Blockade Runner at least you *might* make it to the jet can. But consider the following:

1. a cloaked industrial (except BR) will have to warp onto grid uncloaked.
2. your cloaked speed will be in single digits
3. you will steal from one can before being targeted
4. no can of mission loot is worth the time and effort of this

People who steal mission loot are just doing it to try and draw aggro from the mission runner, so that the thief can then warp back in with a PvP ship able to take the mission runner down.

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
#9 - 2011-12-24 17:01:31 UTC
The vigil fit above is your best bet.

If you want to steal everything relatively quickly.

Iteron mark V
2 Salvager I
10 MN Afterburner
2 Medium Shield Extender I
2 Invulnerability Field I
3 Overdrives
2 Nanos

Does over 600 m/s Align time is pretty good, and can eat the alpha of most mission runners

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Zapp ItsMineNow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-12-24 17:40:48 UTC
Do it in a Stabber. Fleet Issue even better. Fast and agile it.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#11 - 2011-12-24 23:52:25 UTC
Joy Haffa wrote:
So what is your guys best ship and fit for just stealing from miners and mission runners? I just wanna steal no can flipping to gank I am after the loot.


They won't have a point. An itty V with a tiny shield buffer will do you just fine for scooping miners. Fit a battle itty V if you want a chance of killing them for reflipping, or cargo if you just want the ore.

Mission runners, a cane with an MWD, 2-3 salvagers, cargo expanders, some shield buffer, then might as well fit a point some neuts and a few guns since you have space. If some marauder agresses you you can neut them out and let the rats kill em.


Again, missioners and miners don't have points, so you can just leave if they're on their way to popping you.

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Nyx Na'gorg
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-12-25 07:28:56 UTC
-Infiltrate Industrial Corp

-Head up Mining Dep.

-Sell Haul routes to pirates

-Get cut from pirates and insurance from hauler.


That is how did it. Cool
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#13 - 2011-12-25 07:33:26 UTC
Nyx Na'gorg wrote:
-Infiltrate Industrial Corp

-Head up Mining Dep.

-Sell Haul routes to pirates

-Get cut from pirates and insurance from hauler.


That is how did it. Cool


1. Join Mining Corp.
2. Gank Freighter(s)
3. ???????
4. Proffit

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Nyx Na'gorg
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-12-25 07:59:24 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:


1. Join Mining Corp.
2. Gank Freighter(s)
3. ???????
4. Proffit


Pretty much.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#15 - 2011-12-25 09:44:16 UTC
Nyx Na'gorg wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:


1. Join Mining Corp.
2. Gank Freighter(s)
3. ???????
4. Proffit


Pretty much.


ProTip: Step 3 rhymes with "Have your own Grater"

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-12-25 10:36:49 UTC
infiltrate corp, convince the CEO to make you a director, take all shares, empty all hangars/wallets, strip all roles, run for CEO, tear down their towers, give everyone fitting manager roles, set taxes to 100%, kick CEO and directors, blame everything on them, enjoy your new fiefdom

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#17 - 2011-12-25 10:52:54 UTC
Andski wrote:
infiltrate corp, convince the CEO to make you a director, take all shares, empty all hangars/wallets, strip all roles, run for CEO, tear down their towers, give everyone fitting manager roles, set taxes to 100%, kick CEO and directors, blame everything on them, enjoy your new fiefdom


People leave shares in corp hangars?Shocked

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-12-25 10:59:50 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Andski wrote:
infiltrate corp, convince the CEO to make you a director, take all shares, empty all hangars/wallets, strip all roles, run for CEO, tear down their towers, give everyone fitting manager roles, set taxes to 100%, kick CEO and directors, blame everything on them, enjoy your new fiefdom


People leave shares in corp hangars?Shocked


huh

a lot of corps don't touch shares, they just sit around waiting for some director to take them all

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