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I'm going to patch SiSi tonight just to take a look at this. Thanks for the hard work!

This facelift is interesting! Tooltips makes it more intuitive than expected, and it somehow looks cleaner.

However. What am I going to do with such facelift? I'm the CEO of a corporation nearing the 400 members mark, that's not even close to the biggest corporations.

Do you expect me to manually manage each and every member's rights ONE BY ONE ?

So yeah, a UI facelift is always welcome, and I recognize the work it takes to modify the corporation code... But so far I don't see any corp of more than 50 members use it.

Edit: Some points are still valid, but the absence of paging (please implement a search function ) is confirmed as bug. As well as the odd column sorting.

when we've made the column headers vertical, we won't need a horizontal scrollbar because then the list will fit in min resolution screen

sisi launcher is still crashing with same errors. so im unable to even aptch it . repair.exe is trying to treat sisi like TQ and patch it to tranquility

repair exe throws this error at end

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "repairTool\progressPanel.pyc", line 82, in _TaskRun
File "repairTool\repairUI.pyc", line 97, in Start
File "repairTool\repairLogic.pyc", line 199, in Repair
File "repairTool\repairLogic.pyc", line 380, in Restore
File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 407, in RestoreFolder
File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 464, in ReconstructFiles
File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 505, in ReconstructFile
File "checksum.pyc", line 370, in SetSum
File "shelve.pyc", line 133, in __setitem__
File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 279, in __setitem__
File "bsddb\dbutils.pyc", line 68, in DeadlockWrap
File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 278, in wrapF
DBRunRecoveryError: (-30974, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: Invalid argument')
Total Runtime: 0h28m55s

maybe its time to make some icons for roles and popups when mouse over them?

Thanks for testing this out and reporting this.

So as I understand it, what you are saying is that the new roles tab doesn't display roles given through titles?

As far as I can see, this has always been the case (the current role window also doesn't have the functionality you are suggesting). It could additionally lead to problems with where you can add or remove roles. e.g. Are they locked when provided through titles or can they be changed? This may be something for a later iteration but wont be changing now.

Any way you could make the row's adjustable vertically...as atm nearly all the titles fade off the top...

Set up a one-man test corp to check out the new UI. Obviously being only one person I couldn't fiddle around too much, but I want to echo what many of the people before me have said about integrating this new UI with the titles tab. Since I'm pretty sure that most corp leaders predominantly use titles over the actual roles window, it would ironically be more useful to put the new UI in the titles tab than the roles tab, if you could only do one or the other. That being said, please do both! Or else!

Although I have none of my own statistics to back me up on this, I'm sure you CCP devs can whip some of your own up one way or another!

I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to transfer this UI to the titles, just replace the area taken up by the member's name with the title name and off you go!

In tandem with this, the member list, when you use the assign roles window, should also display titles. In case people have lots of titles, maybe the first one or two right underneath the name, have an ellipsis afterwards, and then the full list available via a tooltip.

The checkboxes in the new UI (if they don't already, someone with more research check this for me) should then have their status automatically update to reflect what a member's titles grant him/her.

This way a CEO or director can easily look and say, "Okay, here are all my members. Here's Jason Bouchard. He has Titles A, B, C, and so on... and together this gives him query access to these hangars; query, take, and container access to these other hangars; etc., etc."

EDIT: also one last thing: the tooltip for Container rights is (as far as my knowledge goes) inaccurate. According to the EVE University wiki, Container access merely gives a member the right to remove the container itself from a corporation hangar. Take access is the exact opposite, granting the ability to OPEN containers (and of course anything in the hangar not in a container), but not to remove the actual container.

The tooltip in the Sisi UI says that Container Access grants the ability to take items FROM the container, which is, as previously stated, already encompassed by the Take Access privilege. The tooltip should be reworded to something like, "Allows member to remove containers from hangar." Accordingly the Take Access tooltip should also include that it grants access to items inside containers (as long as there is no password required to open them)

Here's another one to add to that list, Corp members past the 13th are invisible, however you can rightclick and show info to find out who they are.
http://i.imgur.com/jCB0Uw2.png

The new UI is an improvement to the old, less pages to sort through nice work.

There is a tool tip on the "Access" panel that shows the meaning of the 3 check box states, which doesn't seem to be implemented on the other panels, this is a useful tool tip to have on the other panels.

on the "Permissions" and the "Station Services" panel it would be useful to have some kind of explanation as to what each column allows the member to do. e.g. Starbase Fuel Technician: Can access starbase fuel bays. It would be useful to have some detail here.

it would be useful to have unused titles to be filtered out of the "Groups" panel to make it easier to read. So any title that has "Untitled" and nothing checked would be removed from the list. Would make it easier to read and use.

Note: for Title Management section when that gets worked on not having a long list of unused Titles would be nice and also the ability to add a small description of what that title does.

Would be useful to highlight the CEO and Directors in some way by using a highlight color.

Is it possible to get a sub grouping for members with multiple Alts to make it easy to keep track of those members and assign roles to them. For example if Pilot A has Alts B and C, they all join the corp I can then create a group called Pilot A and add Alts B and C to it, then if anyone comes along later they will know that Alts B and C belong to Pilot A and can assign/remove roles to them at the same time.

Is it possible to have a notes section, just because it is sometimes helpful to make notes.