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The maximum amount of any given Attribute

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Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#1 - 2015-03-21 18:48:58 UTC
o/

Question: What is this number - is it 31, 32, 33?

Lets say for an example a character with 27 in Intelligence. Would installing a +5 implant bring it to 32, or is it capped somewhere lower?

Thanks Smile
Noc Ormand
Ether Element
Invidia Gloriae Comes
#2 - 2015-03-21 19:21:32 UTC
32 with max remap and +5'a

Although on a brand new character yout can use a cerebral accelerator to give you +9 to all attributes for 14 days.
Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#3 - 2015-03-21 20:21:00 UTC
Hmm.

I have a character with 27 base INT, and having installed a +5 implant, the attribute now shows up as 31.

CCP, ubad at math? Shocked
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#4 - 2015-03-21 21:30:40 UTC
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
Hmm.

I have a character with 27 base INT, and having installed a +5 implant, the attribute now shows up as 31.

CCP, ubad at math? Shocked


You sure you didn´t jump into a clone that has +4 implants installed?

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Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#5 - 2015-03-21 21:50:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Iroquoiss Pliskin
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
Hmm.

I have a character with 27 base INT, and having installed a +5 implant, the attribute now shows up as 31.

CCP, ubad at math? Shocked


You sure you didn´t jump into a clone that has +4 implants installed?


Re-checked everything: 27 base INT, +5 INT implant - it's still at 31.

Another character that I have also has a 27 base attribute with +4 implant = 31 points. What?
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#6 - 2015-03-22 11:00:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerath Naaris
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:
Hmm.

I have a character with 27 base INT, and having installed a +5 implant, the attribute now shows up as 31.

CCP, ubad at math? Shocked


You sure you didn´t jump into a clone that has +4 implants installed?


Re-checked everything: 27 base INT, +5 INT implant - it's still at 31.

Another character that I have also has a 27 base attribute with +4 implant = 31 points. What?


No idea then. I guess the next question is do you learn skills at proper speed and the 31 is just a display error or do you really lose out on skillpoints. This might actually be one of the rare cases a petition to CCP might be justified.
Make sure to ask for reimpursement of missed skillpoints as well! Cool

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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#7 - 2015-03-22 17:15:43 UTC
Maybe clear your cache in EVE,
but also check the readout in Evemon and on EveBoard.
Iroquoiss Pliskin
9B30FF Labs
#8 - 2015-03-22 18:22:52 UTC
I've done a comparison between the above-described chars: The one with +4 implant trains a 3x Rank INT/MEM skill from Level 3 to Level 4 in 1 day 18 hours; +5 implant one is 1 day 17 hours.

Sounds about right. Smile

On the attribute sheet they have absolutely the same INT/MEM stas.
Shayla Sh'inlux
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-04-01 08:17:01 UTC
If you never remapped, there are some legacy bloodlines that have a "bonus" statpoint due to having one of their stats at 4 base. When they removed learning skills, all "base" stats got bumped to 5 before adding the bloodline and learning bonuses, resulting in an extra point. That point was lost when you remapped, however.

As a result, a never-remapped pre-Apocrypha Minmatar Brutor can theoretically have 33 willpower and a never-remapped pre-Apocrypha Gallente Intake can theoretically have 33 charisma.

Why you'd ever want that, is unclear to me as I was personally MORE than happy to get rid of my base 4 perception.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#10 - 2015-04-01 22:47:26 UTC
Shayla Sh'inlux wrote:
If you never remapped, there are some legacy bloodlines that have a "bonus" statpoint due to having one of their stats at 4 base. When they removed learning skills, all "base" stats got bumped to 5 before adding the bloodline and learning bonuses, resulting in an extra point. That point was lost when you remapped, however.

As a result, a never-remapped pre-Apocrypha Minmatar Brutor can theoretically have 33 willpower and a never-remapped pre-Apocrypha Gallente Intake can theoretically have 33 charisma.

Why you'd ever want that, is unclear to me as I was personally MORE than happy to get rid of my base 4 perception.

Caldari Achura started with 3 charisma, then +12 was added to all stats when learning skills were removed, so legacy Achura have 15 charisma, or -2 from the current minimum of 17.

I had the +2 to applied Willpower until I remapped after ~3 years.