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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#1 - 2015-04-01 07:25:44 UTC
This mail was received by an Anti-ganker, sent by a bumper that he was keeping tabs on, I think we can all say its either a WTF moment or a troll, either way its rather funny.

Quote:
I would appreciate it if you would stop harassing me. Don't think I didn't notice you following me to Moniyyuku and all the way back to Amarr while trying to interfere with my gameplay and trying to rally people to do the same. If you've got beef with me for whatever reason, wardec my corp or gank me. I have not sent CCP a formal complaint, but if you keep behaving like this, I will.


Sincirely,

Redacted
Minister,
Ministry of Love,
Goonswarm Federation

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Mag's
Azn Empire
#2 - 2015-04-01 07:40:45 UTC
Humour.

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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2015-04-01 08:30:20 UTC
Better back off before he reports your harassing behavior.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-04-01 09:56:40 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
This mail was received by an Anti-ganker, sent by a bumper that he was keeping tabs on, I think we can all say its either a WTF moment or a troll, either way its rather funny.

Quote:
I would appreciate it if you would stop harassing me. Don't think I didn't notice you following me to Moniyyuku and all the way back to Amarr while trying to interfere with my gameplay and trying to rally people to do the same. If you've got beef with me for whatever reason, wardec my corp or gank me. I have not sent CCP a formal complaint, but if you keep behaving like this, I will.


Sincirely,

Redacted
Minister,
Ministry of Love,
Goonswarm Federation


Giving you antigankers a taste of your own medicine.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#5 - 2015-04-01 10:14:58 UTC
Alana Charen-Teng wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
This mail was received by an Anti-ganker, sent by a bumper that he was keeping tabs on, I think we can all say its either a WTF moment or a troll, either way its rather funny.

Quote:
I would appreciate it if you would stop harassing me. Don't think I didn't notice you following me to Moniyyuku and all the way back to Amarr while trying to interfere with my gameplay and trying to rally people to do the same. If you've got beef with me for whatever reason, wardec my corp or gank me. I have not sent CCP a formal complaint, but if you keep behaving like this, I will.


Sincirely,

Redacted
Minister,
Ministry of Love,
Goonswarm Federation


Giving you antigankers a taste of your own medicine.


Well that statement is rather incorrect, while you may have people who have been ganked do a petition, the AG's that I have seen look at an exploit used by the gankers (cough loot scooping) shrug and get on with it. But if it makes you feel better stick to that line, for our part we all found that mail hilarious, even if there was only the remotest chance it was legit...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#6 - 2015-04-01 11:30:56 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
~snip~ the AG's that I have seen look at an exploit used by the gankers (cough loot scooping) shrug and get on with it. ~snip~
Loot scooping is an exploit now? Citation needed, until then you're talking out of your arse.

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#7 - 2015-04-01 11:53:17 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
....loot scooping. ....




What?

Ugh

Roll

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And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#8 - 2015-04-01 12:04:19 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
~snip~ the AG's that I have seen look at an exploit used by the gankers (cough loot scooping) shrug and get on with it. ~snip~
Loot scooping is an exploit now? Citation needed, until then you're talking out of your arse.


Calm down, relax and breathe deeply, its OK, not an issue, its all do to with getting out of going suspect, its very clever, very smart, no need to get upset with me talking about it, as I have not petitioned it neither have others we just smile and nod sagely at each other, do just keep your cool, you know relax

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Gemina Gidrine
The Safety Fire
#9 - 2015-04-01 12:14:01 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
~snip~ the AG's that I have seen look at an exploit used by the gankers (cough loot scooping) shrug and get on with it. ~snip~
Loot scooping is an exploit now? Citation needed, until then you're talking out of your arse.


Calm down, relax and breathe deeply, its OK, not an issue, its all do to with getting out of going suspect, its very clever, very smart, no need to get upset with me talking about it, as I have not petitioned it neither have others we just smile and nod sagely at each other, do just keep your cool, you know relax


So it's not an exploit then, just a use of existing game mechanics.

Your condescending tone does not hide the fact that you are indeed talking out of your arse. Jonah calmly pointed this out to you, maybe you should say thank you.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#10 - 2015-04-01 12:20:25 UTC
Gemina Gidrine wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
~snip~ the AG's that I have seen look at an exploit used by the gankers (cough loot scooping) shrug and get on with it. ~snip~
Loot scooping is an exploit now? Citation needed, until then you're talking out of your arse.


Calm down, relax and breathe deeply, its OK, not an issue, its all do to with getting out of going suspect, its very clever, very smart, no need to get upset with me talking about it, as I have not petitioned it neither have others we just smile and nod sagely at each other, do just keep your cool, you know relax


So it's not an exploit then, just a use of existing game mechanics.

Your condescending tone does not hide the fact that you are indeed talking out of your arse. Jonah calmly pointed this out to you, maybe you should say thank you.


Mechanics, of course, personally I don't see how CCP can adjust it to do what they intend, however smart game play and it was not petitioned by AG players, because they are reasonable people, not what they are painted here by the CODE poster above, if you have a issue with me then show me your lasars!

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2015-04-01 12:35:54 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:

Mechanics, of course, personally I don't see how CCP can adjust it to do what they intend, however smart game play and it was not petitioned by AG players, because they are reasonable people, not what they are painted here by the CODE poster above, if you have a issue with me then show me your lasars!


Please, tell me the story of your people.
I'm all ears.
Saying A and not saying B could be considered teasing
Say it ain't so Cool

Of course you have a perfectly reasonable complaint.
Following gankers around might not be harassment to the letter.
Following anyone around is creepy, however. Stop it.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#12 - 2015-04-01 12:56:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Danalee wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

Mechanics, of course, personally I don't see how CCP can adjust it to do what they intend, however smart game play and it was not petitioned by AG players, because they are reasonable people, not what they are painted here by the CODE poster above, if you have a issue with me then show me your lasars!


Please, tell me the story of your people.
I'm all ears.
Saying A and not saying B could be considered teasing
Say it ain't so Cool

Of course you have a perfectly reasonable complaint.
Following gankers around might not be harassment to the letter.
Following anyone around is creepy, however. Stop it.

D.

Bear


Well the person concerned was following a bumper around to stop them from hyperdunking, perfectly acceptable, however I think he was being ironic, but still pretty funny.

The CODE pilot was saying something incorrect about those fine AG people so I just corrected her. Big smile

EDIT: April fools............ or was it?

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2015-04-01 14:22:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
So in the bumper thread the GM stated that if the same ganker follows the same person from system to system he has reason to file a petition for possible harassment. Since the miner made the effort to move to a different system to get away from him and the fact that the ganker is just targeting him.

I would just like to point out the ganker can prolly do the same thing since you are following him from system to system interfering with his game play.

Never really thought about it that way around though.

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#14 - 2015-04-01 14:52:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Cannibal Kane wrote:
So in the bumper thread the GM stated that if the same ganker follows the same person from system to system he has reason to file a petition for possible harassment. Since the miner made the effort to move to a different system to get away from him and the fact that the ganker is just targeting him.

I would just like to point out the ganker can prolly do the same thing since you are following him from system to system interfering with his game play.

Never really thought about it that way around though.


Actually that's rather amusing, he is having a dig at CCP then.

However isn't he acting very much like the carebears he despises so much?

I suppose if we ignore certain common sense differences then someone can make the same point about someone in null space following someone running sites for example, the mind boggles.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-04-01 19:07:46 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
So in the bumper thread the GM stated that if the same ganker follows the same person from system to system he has reason to file a petition for possible harassment. Since the miner made the effort to move to a different system to get away from him and the fact that the ganker is just targeting him.

I would just like to point out the ganker can prolly do the same thing since you are following him from system to system interfering with his game play.

Never really thought about it that way around though.


Actually that's rather amusing, he is having a dig at CCP then.

However isn't he acting very much like the carebears he despises so much?

I suppose if we ignore certain common sense differences then someone can make the same point about someone in null space following someone running sites for example, the mind boggles.


More accurately he's simply following the same harassment rules that CCP holds for the miners. That doesn't make him acting like a carebear, it means that he simply expects CCP to extend the same rules to include other aspects of the game other than only to ganking miners. He's being very reasonable. He also was kind enough to warn the offending players of their petition-able actions prior to filling an official petition.

As null sec I do believe the rules would be not as well defined as if they are running missions in your space, then you are defending your space from invaders, regardless of where they go. If you are in their space, then you are hunting and disrupting hostile players, regardless of where they happen to go. Those are both very reasonable things to expect from a null sec PVP pilot and would not be petition-able.

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Klaus Tylar
Tylar United Freight
#16 - 2015-04-01 19:26:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Klaus Tylar
Cannibal Kane wrote:
So in the bumper thread the GM stated that if the same ganker follows the same person from system to system he has reason to file a petition for possible harassment. Since the miner made the effort to move to a different system to get away from him and the fact that the ganker is just targeting him.

I would just like to point out the ganker can prolly do the same thing since you are following him from system to system interfering with his game play.

Never really thought about it that way around though.


Where does this protection begin and end, though? What if the 'ganker' is being paid to kill that person for the gain or benefit of another(disruption of opposition income, loss of opposition's time, etc)? What if the person being followed is merely feeling the repercussions of prior interactions with another player?

Seems like a slippery slope to let anyone call down CCP this easy, even conditionally.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#17 - 2015-04-01 19:26:41 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
More accurately he's simply following the same harassment rules that CCP holds for the miners. That doesn't make him acting like a carebear, it means that he simply expects CCP to extend the same rules to include other aspects of the game other than only to ganking miners. He's being very reasonable. He also was kind enough to warn the offending players of their petition-able actions prior to filling an official petition.

As null sec I do believe the rules would be not as well defined as if they are running missions in your space, then you are defending your space from invaders, regardless of where they go. If you are in their space, then you are hunting and disrupting hostile players, regardless of where they happen to go. Those are both very reasonable things to expect from a null sec PVP pilot and would not be petition-able.


Here is the common sense part, no GM will look at people following a miner who merely seeks to mine stuff as being the same as a PvP player following a PvP player with the intent to prevent him from getting a kill as part of his own play style of attempting to keep the supply lines to Jita clear while the other is seeking to destroy those supply lines.

If he tried to petition that I would expect the GM to have a coughing fit while muttering HTFU...,

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#18 - 2015-04-01 20:08:13 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Here is the common sense part, no GM will look at people following a miner who merely seeks to mine stuff as being the same as a PvP player


But they *are* a PvP player.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#19 - 2015-04-01 20:23:55 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Here is the common sense part, no GM will look at people following a miner who merely seeks to mine stuff as being the same as a PvP player


But they *are* a PvP player.


Well one of his corp mates petitioned the GM's on his behalf and was told that they make that distinction, so the OP and you are both wrong. I hope the player concerned just leaves it at that and does not petition against a threat of using the petition system to influence his game play, I would just laugh it off and I hope he does too, its a game after all.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#20 - 2015-04-02 01:01:37 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
This mail was received by an Anti-ganker, sent by a bumper that he was keeping tabs on, I think we can all say its either a WTF moment or a troll, either way its rather funny.

Quote:
I would appreciate it if you would stop harassing me. Don't think I didn't notice you following me to Moniyyuku and all the way back to Amarr while trying to interfere with my gameplay and trying to rally people to do the same. If you've got beef with me for whatever reason, wardec my corp or gank me. I have not sent CCP a formal complaint, but if you keep behaving like this, I will.


Sincirely,

Redacted
Minister,
Ministry of Love,
Goonswarm Federation


Reading this I was all like, lol-awww-lol-ffs-WAT!?!

I hope this is fan fiction...

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