Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Which is why a player corp must be the optimal way to generate income, and NPC corps should be distinctly and markedly inferior. A high tax rate on all activity is probably the simplest way, as well as restrictions on what activity can be undertaken (no research, no manufacturing, no L4 missions, etc).

Wardecs can never be improved so long as the alternative exists, so it should stop existing, period. But since we can't cripple newbies, the tax rate should only activate on players above a certain age, say, 90 days.

What this would do is make player corps the optimal playstyle by a large margin, which immediately makes them worth having, and worth fighting for.

Next, the corp creation mechanics must be overhauled to prevent people from rolling corps. 48 hour cooldown for creation of a player corp, and a cost of 50mil(and probably set the skillbook to have a prereq). If it is non-trivial to create a corporation, there will be far less of those helpless little 10 man corps you bemoan getting shot at.

Furthermore, a corp dissolving during a war will permanently lock out that name, and give it to the aggressing corp as a trophy, dojo challenge style.




No, I won't, and yes, it does. It proves that we've been doing things wrong for a long, long time, and that to fix it highsec will need to become much more friendly to conflict than it presently is.

This will be a net loss for carebears, and likely a big one too. There is no way around that, there is no negotiation, no compromise. The lies about "griefing" have finally been exposed, and the playing field is about to change in a way that they won't like. And that's a good thing.

Agreed that anplayer corp should be more profitable than an NPC corp but that should be through positive means with players gaining higher material savings etc from owning structures rather than from hitting NPC corps with arbitrary nerfs. Otherwise all this would do is create a culture that gets the exact opposite of that which you want, there would be a whole raft of small player corps held by an alt CEO with people simply jumping between them to avoid wards instead. On top of that players will simply get smarter at avoiding combat.

Players need to be encouraged into space and feel they at least have a fighting chance in the case of a war.



One statistic alone proves nothing at all since it can be read in a myriad of ways. This statistic raises a point for CCP to research, nothing more and nothing less. It cannot in itself give any clue as to the reasons why people quit from hisec.

I'd leave FW off that list as it is intrinsically NPC (Faction NPC at that) based.

Ah yes, I stand corrected. I think there should also be an incentive to get into player-owned corporations beyond the negative aspects of NPC corporations that we're toying with. I'm not entirely sure what it should be, but it would need to be activity-based to deter players from simply staying docked in stations or AFK cloaking. Any thoughts?

McChicken made a valid point here though, industrial corps do not tend to have the skills (player or character) to engage in warfare. You will no doubt argue that they should learn them but why should they? If those players hate PvP they should be able to avoid it otherwise you will either a) lose them from the game or b) they would have to join one of the major corps and work at the heart of one of the main nullspace alliances assuming they won't force them into combat ops they have no wish to engage in.

Perhaps some element of industrial and combat index is required for player corps, one with a very low combat index and high industrial index could cost much more to wardec than a combat oriented player corp. Make the cost of the war a function between the indices of the two opposing corps may make people more likely to engage in war and even open up the possibility of a corp hiring in 'Gunslinger' PvP types to help them without bumping up the wardec cost too much.

Since the mechanics are already in-place for the ESS, why not just move it to high-sec?

Because I'd rather discourage the awfulness of deployables(that any idjit can anchor), and making it a pos module would put a barrier in front of it, to encourage conflict between established groups fighting for the carrot in a lucrative mission area. It also ties it into the war system, since declaring war to clear off an enemy pos is more involved than shooting a stinking deployable.

Couldn't we just make it a requirement that only player-owned corporations can deploy an ESS in high-sec? Make accessing, scooping or destroying it a suspect offence.

This is just conceptualization anyway, you can say what you want.

Personally I'd prefer it as a pos module, to incentivize the use of player stations in highsec as well.

The other thing is people forget that PvP does not start and stop at pewpew.

Industrial corps impacting people through, for example the market - or stripping the belts can be battled on those terms as well as shooting.

There is more than one way to skin a cat.