Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Vexor has 100mb bandwith, VNI 125, Prophecy 75, Myrmidon 100. Some BS have 75 only. Anti BS weapon doesn't mean it's a BS class fitted weapon.

That wouldn't solve the overiding problem that Sentries are still by far the best fleet weapon in the game.

Subcap drone boats shouldn't be a thing. Drone subcaps dominate many classes besides the HAC department. I'd prefer to see all drone bonuses removed from subcaps.

Drones were actually originally intended to be supplemental weaponry, not a primary weapon system. Rebalance the EWAR drones so the ships with large drones bandwidth / drone bays can use drones in a supplemental role.

Another day.

Another day in a nanu dron Ishtar.

P.S. I suspect the Chinese Eve server hasn't discovered the sentries' real potential yet, hence no fix. All the changes to TQ also apply there, and vice versa.



Also this.

But it's far too late to go back now - CCP have created a monster. Addition of DDAs showed how broken the system is - perfect tracking, omni damage and superior range with damage avoidance for the boat controlling them in the case of sentries.

After wading through all the bullshit and gimmicky solutions in countless threads, the real cause of all the great suffering has been identified:



This man is correct.

Gallente Cruiser bonuses (per skill level):

7.5% bonus to Heavy Drone max velocity and tracking speed
10% bonus to Light, Medium, and Heavy Drone hit points and damage, 5% bonus to Sentry Drone hit points and damage

Heavy Assault Cruisers bonuses (per skill level):

5000m bonus to Drone operation range
5% bonus to Sentry Drone optimal range*and*tracking speed

That's at least 6 bonuses.
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A Zealot has 4, or even three if you disregard the Activation cost:

Amarr Cruiser bonuses (per skill level):

10% reduction in Medium Energy Turret activation cost
5% bonus to Medium Energy Turret rate of fire

Heavy Assault Cruisers bonuses (per skill level):

10% bonus to Medium Energy Turret optimal range
5% bonus to Medium Energy Turret damage
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Muninn also four:

Minmatar Cruiser bonuses (per skill level):

5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret rate of fire
5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret damage

Heavy Assault Cruisers bonuses (per skill level):

10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret optimal range
7.5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret tracking speed

* * *

The same drone/sentry Optimal range and Tracking double bonus is also present on the Dominix --- In a situation where sentries/drones are a fully functioning primary weapons system that is unacceptable. WTB Apocalypse with Tracking+Optimal and a 10% Damage bonus.

Remove the Optimal range part of the double bonus, and maybe combine Sentry 5% Tracking with Heavy Tracking 7.5% into one.

If they ever want to reach those ranges again, they'll have to sacrifice their tank buffer - just like everyone else.

Thanks for listening to reason.

One more time:

Apocalypse:

Amarr Battleship bonuses (per skill level):

7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret optimal range
7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed

Dominix:

Gallente Battleship bonuses (per skill level):

10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage
7.5% bonus to Drone optimal range and tracking speed

Tempest:

Minmatar Battleship bonuses (per skill level):

5% bonus to Large Projectile Turret rate of fire
5% bonus to Large Projectile Turret damage

Is the Dominix a brawling ship? A fleet ship? All of the above? Best spaceship?

I'd love to get a 10% damage per level bonus on the Apocalypse. Oh, and make it so that all of the bonuses apply to Small, Medium and Large energy turrets.

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Let's see,

7.5% bonus to Heavy Drone max velocity and tracking speed - That's two
10% bonus to Light, Medium, and Heavy Drone hit points and damage, 5% bonus to Sentry Drone hit points and damage - That's number 3.

Heavy Assault Cruisers bonuses (per skill level):

5000m bonus to Drone operation range - Four
5% bonus to Sentry Drone optimal range *and* tracking speed - Five & Six

Alright, we can count the Trackings as one. So 5 (five) in total.

Don't forget that this CRUISER hull can instantly switch between Tachyon Beam Laser / 425mm range & damage, and Neutron Blaster Cannons whenever it feels like it. Albeit only two times, if abandoning sentries is required.

On the topic of all drone sizes getting damage bonuses: Would I fly a Zealot with bonused Small Beams? Possibly.

Don't try to steer away from the problem. I never said optimal and tracking needs removing. Only the Optimal part of the DOUBLE bonus.

Or is Heavy drones tracking frigs not enough of an advantage? No?

Carry on.

That is 6 bonuses that apply independently to different weapon sizes. There are 2 bonuses for small, 4 for mobile large and 4 for mobile stationary. Throwing them all into one pot is tailoring the data to favor your argument, not objectively looking at what the data actually does. You also cannot count the tracking bonuses as one as they do not apply to the same drones. Counting the range bonus is a bit of a stretch as stationary drones cannot follow you around and mobile drones need to travel.

In case you've forgotten, you can also not "instantly switch between" drones when you feel like it, there are cooldown timers and range limitations.

This thread is about the Ishtar, not the Dominix. If you want to discuss the Domi, this is the thread for you. I have already voiced my opinion there and you are also active there.

They are the Ying and Yang of the sentry problem.

Going by history, seeing as no one wants a moderate solution, the nerf bat will decimate both of these ships in the end.