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ATTN Breaking Remap/Attribute news! U gonna be mad btw

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Arment Rinah
Doomheim
#101 - 2015-03-31 11:35:02 UTC
Xpaulusx wrote:
All for it if it helps new players. As for me i don't need remaps, no real veteran playing over 8 years should.



Absolutely. The players that are not quite there need them though.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#102 - 2015-03-31 11:36:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
double post.
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#103 - 2015-03-31 11:38:06 UTC
So much envy.

You complainers really suck as human beings.
Forced education centers really should be a thing.

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Arment Rinah
Doomheim
#104 - 2015-03-31 11:50:13 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:
So much envy.

You complainers really suck as human beings.
Forced education centers really should be a thing.





You sheep really suck as human beings. Stop apologizing for CCP and start raising your voice for equal treatment. Accept that just because issues don't affect you, that doesn't mean they're non-issues.
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2015-03-31 11:51:58 UTC
: facepalm :
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#106 - 2015-03-31 13:08:05 UTC
I'm genuinely upset. For years I've had 4 remaps and kept it that way by only changing the attributes once a year. For years my self-imposed restraint made me special.
And now...
Now everybody that so much as starts to play EVE gets those 4 remaps. Now telling someone I have 4 remaps means I'm a n00b....

Just gimme one CCP.

This entire plea unfortunately also demonstrates I don't need bonus-remaps. So I'll live I guess...
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#107 - 2015-03-31 13:19:11 UTC
I still have 2x bonus remaps to use, i tend to forget that i have them. Shocked

EVEBoard ...Just over 60million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
Klaus Tylar
Tylar United Freight
#108 - 2015-03-31 13:20:20 UTC
Arment Rinah wrote:
Accept that just because issues don't affect you, that doesn't mean they're non-issues.


Only if you accept that just because you're unhappy about something doesn't make it a legitimate issue for others.
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2015-03-31 13:40:56 UTC
O_O There's skill plans out there that are not several years of Perception/Willpower?
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#110 - 2015-03-31 13:51:53 UTC
Arment Rinah wrote:
Eve Solecist wrote:
So much envy.

You complainers really suck as human beings.
Forced education centers really should be a thing.





You sheep really suck as human beings. Stop apologizing for CCP and start raising your voice for equal treatment. Accept that just because issues don't affect you, that doesn't mean they're non-issues.

No one is apologising. Stop living in a fantasy world
where you can filter everything through your beliefs.

CCP does not need to apologise for not feeding those
who are unhappy with what others get.

The issue is not CCP,
the issue is people like you.

People who want and demand and show envy for those who get something
they are not only unaware of, but also not asking for it.

That's right.


With how you sad lot display yourselves,
you get angry at christmas, because of the toys other kids get.

It's embarassing.
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Arment Rinah
Doomheim
#111 - 2015-03-31 15:02:07 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:
CCP does not need to apologise for not feeding those
who are unhappy with what others get.


People who want and demand and show envy for those who get something
they are not only unaware of, but also not asking for it.

That's right.


With how you sad lot display yourselves,
you get angry at christmas, because of the toys other kids get.

It's embarassing.




I hate to break this to you, but your opinion is wrong. No one is unhappy that the new players get more remaps, we are unhappy that we don't get the same freedom. Now call it envy, it doesn't matter. Your moral standards however seem way off, if it offends you if people ask for equal treatment.


It is definitely not embarrassing to ask for something as essential as reworks, in a game that resolves around SP. This is not real life. I pay for this game and I want to play it in my free time and not worry about it too much. I want however to be treated the same way another paying customer is treated, who started the game just a few month after me. My 20 bucks a month should get me same thing as his 20 bucks a month. There is no arguing to that. EVE is not a one time purchase.





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Only if you accept that just because you're unhappy about something doesn't make it a legitimate issue for others.



Absolutely true, if people don't care about the issue, they don't have to post. It's not like bonus remaps would hurt the people who don't care though. No one is forcing anyone to be mad, but I have every right to be pissed and express that feeling.
Puh Tayto
Doomheim
#112 - 2015-03-31 15:26:41 UTC
Arment Rinah wrote:
I hate to break this to you, but your opinion is wrong. No one is unhappy that the new players get more remaps, we are unhappy that we don't get the same freedom. Now call it envy, it doesn't matter. Your moral standards however seem way off, if it offends you if people ask for equal treatment.


It is definitely not embarrassing to ask for something as essential as reworks, in a game that resolves around SP. This is not real life. I pay for this game and I want to play it in my free time and not worry about it too much. I want however to be treated the same way another paying customer is treated, who started the game just a few month after me. My 20 bucks a month should get me same thing as his 20 bucks a month. There is no arguing to that. EVE is not a one time purchase.


Indeed. However, unfortunately this forum is a troll's playground, and the usual suspects will try to characterise your quite reasonable point of view as that of a 'crybaby' etc.

The responses to this issue on the EVE subreddit are much more balanced, mainly because the people posting in it aren't trying to 'extract tears' for the 'lulz' and are actually behaving like normal people.
Arment Rinah
Doomheim
#113 - 2015-03-31 16:50:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Arment Rinah
We can all go home now.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#114 - 2015-03-31 19:33:59 UTC
I removed a reply to an edited out part of the post it quoted and some posts replying to the reply.

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ACESsiggy
Deaths Consortium
#115 - 2015-03-31 20:29:19 UTC  |  Edited by: ACESsiggy
"IMO" remove attributes and provide SP bonus allocation once a week for players active in the game through mission running, combat anoms, FW combat, etc etc. Small amount of course but nothing more than the current modified max attribute with implant(s).

“The open-minded see the truth in different things: the narrow-minded see only the differences.”
Mara Villoso
Long Jump.
#116 - 2015-03-31 20:47:58 UTC
So existing accounts don't get an extra bonus remap? That's disappointing.
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#117 - 2015-03-31 20:49:47 UTC
ACESsiggy wrote:
"IMO" remove attributes and provide SP bonus allocation once a week for players active in the game through mission running, combat anoms, FW combat, etc etc. Small amount of course but nothing more than the current modified max attribute with implant(s).


Sort of like experience points? Lol
Serene Repose
#118 - 2015-04-01 00:45:49 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
... the game development team did read all the back-and-forth in that earlier thread....
And, they survived? Miraculous!! I do hope the company covered their mental recalibration and possible IQ point loss. It can be dangerous reading threads in GD. Shocked

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#119 - 2015-04-01 01:54:51 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
CCP Darwin wrote:
... the game development team did read all the back-and-forth in that earlier thread....
And, they survived? Miraculous!! I do hope the company covered their mental recalibration and possible IQ point loss. It can be dangerous reading threads in GD. Shocked

I read that thread and then I 'it meself in teh 'ead wiff a brick.

Very dangerous indeed.

Mr Epeen Cool
ACESsiggy
Deaths Consortium
#120 - 2015-04-01 05:29:15 UTC
Harrison Tato wrote:
ACESsiggy wrote:
"IMO" remove attributes and provide SP bonus allocation once a week for players active in the game through mission running, combat anoms, FW combat, etc etc. Small amount of course but nothing more than the current modified max attribute with implant(s).


Sort of like experience points? Lol


I guess we can use warping to 0 versus autopilot for an example. Taking both under consideration the time for any player using warp to zero will arrive at their destination faster than the other person AFK using autopilot. Obviously rewarding the person with user input.

“The open-minded see the truth in different things: the narrow-minded see only the differences.”