Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If I were an alliance that built a station, and had the technology level in Eve, I'd want to build in some insurance for my stuff. I'd probably want it engineered so that the item/ship storage was centralized into a large covert jump drive container. Since other station owners would want that too, there might be a Hangar Emergency Jump Drive network administered by SOE. There, I just created a lore-friendly explanation that really can't be stopped because you can't bubble a titan sized jump drive and you couldn't lock it and it separates/jumps as soon as the station is destroyed.

As for moored Cap ships... As part of the mooring service, the station will piggyback the Caps into the titan sized cyno created by the Hangar Emergency Jump Drive and route it through the network to a safer station.

Or you could just call it an insurance/replacement service... Victims can "repurchase" lost items for 35% of their value. 35% of all things in station are ejected intact at high velocity (hidden among debris). Over the course of the week, the intact hangars drift far enough away from the scraps to be probed by players scavenging throughout the system. (Imagine the swarms of greedy ninja scavengers and battles that would be waged over "Scavenging Rights") That way, 65% is an ISK sink. But oh man, imagine the "content" and backstabbing possible!

All that destruction aside, I'm concerned about CCP's limited mooring idea. What happens when a lot of players moore their ships and leave them or unsubscribe... It could get to the point of people not un-mooring for fear of losing their spaces.

You never actually "lose access to your stuff", you just lose docking rights. You can always sell the stuff by contract (and I think some skills allow you to set up market sell orders? maybe?) so it's fairly simple to exchange your old stuff for the same type of stuff elsewhere. I don't think this has prevented people from coming back to the game, much.

I don't get it. Why looting tower is allowed but looting station is forbiddened? If properties in station require protection, shouldn't properties in tower be protected too? Why they are treated differently?

How about

- some sort of special container named like "Escape container". They have module like MJD and some sort of cloaking device
- these containers fly away upon station destruction aligning in a random direction just like the containers in old scanning sites
- everybody can catch these containers just like the old way
- within a limited amount of time
- when the time has passed these containers turn on their "MJD" and jumps away off-grid in any direction then cloaks and remains in space. Bookmark to its location is available to container's owner
- however container may be found by roaming nearby space and decloaking this container (chances are low but still). Decloaked container can be hacked to gain access to its content

Hello CCP,
first i say sorry, my english isnt that good. i think that this topic is most important for the future. so i will give some thinks about it.
some of us play games cus they want to feel strong or want a long e-penis and if they lose all there stuff because in eve is no one alone strong they quite. ppl lose there station, there stuff, because of the weakness of its group. so the pilot gets punishable. not by his own fault but by his alliance / corp fault or just by eve´s nature. im not real sure if this will be a good way. ok he can be inactive or leave the battlefield but that doesnt count for everyone :)

Here are some problems more and possible solutions.
did u think about a station which builds capitals? heres a szenario:

My Corp want to build 2 wyvern but before we start they attack our station and we cant escape with the materials.
So in our corp-drop (container / site / spawn) are about 40.000.000 loot. only for 2 ships we wanted to build.

if we want this stuff we need an ops to get this. we need 40 freighters. 40 freighters in an unsecure space... cus if we wouldnt have lost the fights there we wouldnt need to haul. now we have to go there again with 40 men less (they fly a freighter) that makes an convo of 100-200 ppl to get the stuff of 2! ships.
either i think that is in balance with risk vs reward. 2 wyvern = 40kkk 40 freighter = 54kkk (pvp ships not counted)

maybe an titan-freighter with 10 or 20kk storage should be released.


I think you should let us chose another station where our stuff lands in.

Heres my idea:
the station is destroyed and before i log in i have to chose another station where my asstes go to. And this takes time. much time. for every m³ or kk isk a few secends. so if i have about 20kkk it should take about a month. 5 sec for each kk isk.
if i dont want to wait so long or i need a specific item i can go there and take it (risk vs reward). the timer goes down by the worth of items i take. Even if i take some items i can leave all other there and let it spawn by timer to my selected station.

an item drop of 5% should be enough to make the attackers happy and take out some stuff from the game (50% of the 5% could get destroyed) . if an 200 men corporation lose its station there are billions of isk. take a look how much 5% could be and let me know it

this can we expanded by skills or isk sink. a skill for a shorter timer and an insure even for a shorter timer.

You could have at least left my on topic stuff. I was just trying to shame the other poster to be constructive, and not waste our time with in insubstantial opinions. I'm lucky that I still had it in my clipboard.

As for me saying something on topic... I think that an insurance mechanic is probably the best solution. It should be easy to implement and tweak as needed. Pay a portion of the cost for the items you want replaced to get them back in an NPC station. Drop some of their actual items in space to create the scavenger orgy.

A month before patch, or first ACCOUNT login, let players know the change is coming. This gives them a month to move stuff. If their station is destroyed within a month (paid time) of notification, insurance is free. Make it known that abuse of this gift from CCP should be dealt with harshly.

I think that is pretty simple and fair to everyone. Insurance percentages and loot drops would be up to game designers.

How about the rightful owner can give someone others an "access key" (or something like that) so that they can grab his or her items from the wreck structure or container?

In that way you could hire a "recovery corp" to bring your assets to you. I think this could be a new and interesting profession.

If we truly want to have the new market structures take the place of the old major hubs, there isn't any other way to do it. Nor, do I think it is healthy for eve that so much trade is dependent on so few major trade systems as it is. Plus, being the largest by far structures should make the npc stations quite hard to kill....yes, only a burn jita type event could possibly do it. But, no place in eve should be perfectly safe...not even jita 4-4.

Perhaps CCP should add one NPC owned system to each region, name it region capital, connected with every constellation through one or two gates and more than one NPC station in it? (a bit like Thera).

The volume of stuff one can put in a given POS is limited, station hangar space on the other hand, is not.

Multiply that by the number of pilots services by each concept and you have your answer.