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Name change service "sooner rather than later"

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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#121 - 2015-03-30 06:12:12 UTC
Kenneth Endashi wrote:
What happened to OP's name? Why can't I click it?

Doomheim
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#122 - 2015-03-30 06:38:06 UTC
People that face rolled a name should live with it.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
flakeys
Doomheim
#123 - 2015-03-30 10:04:59 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Kenneth Endashi wrote:
What happened to OP's name? Why can't I click it?

Doomheim



Guess he couldn't live with such a crappy name eh .... Big smile

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Puh Tayto
Doomheim
#124 - 2015-03-30 10:31:13 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Kenneth Endashi wrote:
What happened to OP's name? Why can't I click it?

Doomheim



Guess he couldn't live with such a crappy name eh .... Big smile


As explained on the previous page, it was a temporary character. As is this one.
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#125 - 2015-03-30 12:45:57 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
You have no idea how many good characters I pass over because they have names like kes88 (no offense meant). Mr Epeen Cool

Exactly... Some incredibly idiotic names out there... I wont buy them either...
Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
#126 - 2015-03-30 15:50:37 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Changing names is a bad idea. It shouldn't even be contemplated.


Sounds a bit narrow-minded. Contemplating stuff and thinking outside the box is how we evolve as intellectual beings.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#127 - 2015-03-30 17:47:01 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Why is this even being considered?

For multiple good reasons. The important part is that you're still searchable under your old name.

Everyone seems to be missing that rather important detail.

Because it isn't relevant. You don't always have time to do a complete check on everyone in local - that's why you take advantage of the knowledge you already have. If someone new pops into local while a fight is happening and it's someone you know then you need instant recognition. With any other system you'd have to first figure out who they are, then explain to your fleetmates who they used to be. Now you have two names you have to remember, per baddie. Imagine how messy that gets when you are doing corp/alliance level politics and keeping track of literally hundreds of different characters, their alts, their blues and reds....

And no, having a time limit wouldn't help either. Lets say 25% of a neighboring alliance changes their name over a 6 month period. That's one every few days and you would quickly lose track of most of them. When I log into league of legends these days I have no idea who any of the people on my friends list are because they all have different names (and it's a paid service - people WILL use it).

Name changes punish everyone but the person in question and only reward people that for whatever reason can't come up with a reasonable name.

Name changes are a bad idea.

RIP Moshi and yes...I see how your main could do with a name change Roll

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Jallukola
#128 - 2015-03-30 18:03:34 UTC
Tell you what, when the option to reject being added on watchlist comes, then I oppose this idea.

All posts and mails screencapped and time stamped, including out of EVE, you will not reverse on me.

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#129 - 2015-03-30 18:07:19 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:
No...just no. You create your name and you live with it, this is Eve.

say it to people who have chosen 'offending' name and got it changed because of some petition

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Teinyhr
Ourumur
#130 - 2015-03-30 18:40:55 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
Because it isn't relevant. You don't always have time to do a complete check on everyone in local - that's why you take advantage of the knowledge you already have. If someone new pops into local while a fight is happening and it's someone you know then you need instant recognition...


Did I miss something that EVE was supposed to be dangerous and stuff? And isn't it always the nullseccers crying the game isn't nearly dangerous enough? I tell you hwat; Local should be used for intel as much as that you know there are people in the system and approximately how many. Let's be generous and say you need instant recognition - then use the standings system and you can recognize potential bad guys through their corporation.

Boom. Now you have the EVE solo player experience, you don't know everything about your enemy and you are actually in danger in places you never or rarely visit.

I've always been in favour of the name change system with some limitations, like the max once per year + cash (and actual cash, not PLEX) system. People really shouldn't be punished for naming their character in their teens or because they unknowingly gave their character a dutch swear word as a name.
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#131 - 2015-03-30 18:48:59 UTC
Quote:
People really shouldn't be punished for naming their character in their teens or because they unknowingly gave their character a dutch swear word as a name.

I see nothing wrong with dutch swear words.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#132 - 2015-03-30 19:06:54 UTC
Frank Millar wrote:
Quote:
People really shouldn't be punished for naming their character in their teens or because they unknowingly gave their character a dutch swear word as a name.

I see nothing wrong with dutch swear words.

People other than you play eve.

As for hiding yourself via a name change, maybe all that is needed is a check box called "Always show original name".

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Wenda M'mbala
Doomheim
#133 - 2015-03-30 19:10:48 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Why is this even being considered?

For multiple good reasons. The important part is that you're still searchable under your old name.

Everyone seems to be missing that rather important detail.

Because it isn't relevant. You don't always have time to do a complete check on everyone in local - that's why you take advantage of the knowledge you already have. If someone new pops into local while a fight is happening and it's someone you know then you need instant recognition. With any other system you'd have to first figure out who they are, then explain to your fleetmates who they used to be. Now you have two names you have to remember, per baddie. Imagine how messy that gets when you are doing corp/alliance level politics and keeping track of literally hundreds of different characters, their alts, their blues and reds....

And no, having a time limit wouldn't help either. Lets say 25% of a neighboring alliance changes their name over a 6 month period. That's one every few days and you would quickly lose track of most of them. When I log into league of legends these days I have no idea who any of the people on my friends list are because they all have different names (and it's a paid service - people WILL use it).

Name changes punish everyone but the person in question and only reward people that for whatever reason can't come up with a reasonable name.

Name changes are a bad idea.

RIP Moshi and yes...I see how your main could do with a name change Roll


Wow that's one big wall of text just to say you like your casual intel system. Also, why do you need to know their names? is it really important? I recognize bad guys when they're shooting at me. Plus you can still put negative standings on corps?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#134 - 2015-03-30 19:21:40 UTC
Frank Millar wrote:
Quote:
People really shouldn't be punished for naming their character in their teens or because they unknowingly gave their character a dutch swear word as a name.

I see nothing wrong with dutch swear words.


Another example might be in order since the entire population of The Netherlands would be lost in a city the size of Los Angeles. And even then, only 79% of them speak Dutch.

How likely are you to run into Dutch swear words? Even on the internet? And how likely is it that if you do use a Dutch swear word, anyone would actually know it and report it?

Mr Epeen Cool
Josef Djugashvilis
#135 - 2015-03-30 19:30:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
March rabbit wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
No...just no. You create your name and you live with it, this is Eve.

say it to people who have chosen 'offending' name and got it changed because of some petition


If a name is changed because it is deemed to be offensive, then the person who chose the name needs to, well, think first, then choose name.

I have seen some pretty crude and racist (often wtih some weird spelling to get around the rules) names, but I regard that as their problem ot mine.

I am surprised anyone bothers to report them, but whatever.

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Galen Estidal
Doomheim
#136 - 2015-03-30 19:41:00 UTC
I'm against this. I solo in low sec. Knowing the local denizens and being able to see at a glance who exactly is in system is crucial knowledge for me. If the local pirates can gain an intel advantage over me simply by changing their names, as far as I'm concerned, that's bad.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#137 - 2015-03-30 19:45:50 UTC
Galen Estidal wrote:
I'm against this. I solo in low sec. Knowing the local denizens and being able to see at a glance who exactly is in system is crucial knowledge for me. If the local pirates can gain an intel advantage over me simply by changing their names, as far as I'm concerned, that's bad.


You do have their corp marked red, right?

So what's the problem?

Mr Epeen Cool
Puh Tayto
Doomheim
#138 - 2015-03-30 19:46:32 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
RIP Moshi and yes...I see how your main could do with a name change Roll


Um, I haven't posted in this thread on my main.

Also, please do tell why changing the name of your character is bad, but a character being bought and played by a completely different person is fine.
Erin Crawford
#139 - 2015-03-30 20:13:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Erin Crawford
Chribba wrote:
I vote never. It's bad to allow name changes. Reputation is a huge part of this game, don't let people slip away from that by allowing a change.

/c


I agree with not letting the history(name) of a character slip away, but what if there was a name history/record in players profiles, just like a corp history?

Just like in real-life one can change ones name and surname, even appearance - but somewhere there's always a paper trail, a record...

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Galen Estidal
Doomheim
#140 - 2015-03-30 20:48:21 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Galen Estidal wrote:
I'm against this. I solo in low sec. Knowing the local denizens and being able to see at a glance who exactly is in system is crucial knowledge for me. If the local pirates can gain an intel advantage over me simply by changing their names, as far as I'm concerned, that's bad.


You do have their corp marked red, right?

So what's the problem?

Mr Epeen Cool

Individuals. A mere record of corps is not good enough for my purposes. I remember flying styles. Preferred ships. Previous encounters. And of course some people change corps. I want to know them when I meet them again. And I want that information instantly, because it's in my head, not delayed because I first have to check the full character record to find out if I've met them before.