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2-battleship L4 combos that work

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Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#1 - 2015-03-30 05:35:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Phig Neutron
Years ago, I used to run L4 missions with a second character and the combination was autocannon Maelstrom with cruise missile Raven. Mael would blap everything under 30-40km with its truly monstrous DPS, and the Raven would snipe all the distant stuff with its unbelievable range.

Nowadays I'm using a different alt, and this one is entirely Gallente spec with good drone, hybrid, and armor skills. In the years since I was previously doing a lot of missions, they invented MJD and changed some ships around. So I'm looking for recommendations on a good mission-running combo:

Character (A) has near-perfect skills in Minmatar and Amarr ships of all sizes, shields, armors, T2 lasers, T2 projectiles, T2 drones, ewar, etc.
Character (B) is pure Gallente trained, with great armor tanking skills and decent drone and gunnery skills (will need some time for T2 heavy/sentry drones and hybrids).

I thought about cross-training them and doing two remote-rep Nestors just because it would be awesome. But I'm not doing missions in high-sec so I don't want to paint that big of a target on myself and get watch-listed by every enemy within ten jumps. T1 battleship hulls would probably be best at this point. Actually HACs or T3s would probably be best, but I hate them. So I'm looking for T1 battleship pairings.

What do you think?
Sacu Shi
UK Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2015-03-30 07:18:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Sacu Shi
1x pure dps domi
1x pure RR other ship? (Im not familiar with many other ships for lvl 4 except CNR / domi)
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Or, I used to do lvl 4 with a low skilled alt using a Meta fit oracle, and assigning the drones from a domi.
Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#3 - 2015-03-30 07:38:50 UTC
I can do all missions and epic arcs in domi. Recently i started to do missions with two domi. It's fantastic. NPC ships melted so quick.
Tbh, I'm planing to start to train 3rd domi pilot. Or rattle pilot then two domi can assist to rattle. I have 3 laptops.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-03-30 07:49:19 UTC
Apoc+Domi

Mael+Domi

if iskies not an issue try fleet phoon+navy domi for greater dps ratio or navy geddon+navy domi

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#5 - 2015-03-30 16:17:01 UTC
If you go mega or hyperion I recommend 350 rails. They do better damage across the whole spectrum of npcs. You lose a bit of outright damage against BS, but track incoming cruisers and frigs better. So looking at the whole spectrum - 350s are the way to go on mission boats.

Hyperion has the rep bonus which is nice for missions, but then again the mega has the tracking bonus which pays big on cruisers and frigates. That's a toss up.

The sentry Domminix is the current mission monster. Since they came out w/ the modules that bonus drones - the sentry is the king. You get BS damage w/ cruiser tracking and BS range. 2 space potatoes would make any level 4 mission a lay up.

If you have any thoughts toward these characters getting into pvp I would recommend bypassing the dommi and using your training time buffing up your gunnery skills across the board. Though if your dream is to join a large null blob and be an F1 monkey, then the want that sentry shinanigans.

It's a level 4 mission, so don't get too hung up in being the best darn lvl4 runner in eve. You're aspiring to mediocrity and lvl4 mission masters are a dime a dozen (maybe a nickle). Use your lvl4 mission training and time to get a jump on your next phase of eve. Hopefully it's pvp and it's not F1 monkey blob crap.
Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#6 - 2015-03-30 16:48:00 UTC
Has anyone ever used a pairing where one ship was boosting the other with, say, remote tracking computers or something?
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#7 - 2015-03-30 16:56:35 UTC
Domi + Domi is an easy combo with sentry drone assist. Some of the WH guys write about using a 3 RR Domi setup to run sleeper sites or sneak into Null for DED 10's.

I've been running a Mach + Eos setup that is very mobile if you have command ships.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#8 - 2015-03-30 17:42:50 UTC
Put both in their respective marauders and run 2 missions simultaneously. Sure it costs few bil of initial investment on proper fit but then you have L4 meat grinders that barely break sweat in most violent missions.

This Sunday I bought myself vargur and oh my god, L4s stopped being boring because they don't take frakking ages!

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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-03-30 17:52:14 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Put both in their respective marauders and run 2 missions simultaneously. Sure it costs few bil of initial investment on proper fit but then you have L4 meat grinders that barely break sweat in most violent missions.

This Sunday I bought myself vargur and oh my god, L4s stopped being boring because they don't take frakking ages!


He's not doing these in high sec so either you don't use bastion (why are you flying a marauder then) or you risk 1 minute being pinned down in one place.

I would say domi is probably by far the most cost effective taking into account, price, speed and survivability. Other ship combos might be better in one aspect but none really trumps in all 3 areas.

Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#10 - 2015-03-30 18:01:15 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
He's not doing these in high sec so either you don't use bastion (why are you flying a marauder then) or you risk 1 minute being pinned down in one place.


Oh I totally missed not hisec part, sorry.

OP, don't pay attention to my silliness, listen to others.

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Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#11 - 2015-03-30 18:06:32 UTC
What if I threw a monkey wrench into the thread and just said "new constraint: no Dominixes". Nothing against it, but it seems to be the easy default so let's get some other ideas going.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-03-30 18:10:21 UTC
2x Typhoon Fleet issue
Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#13 - 2015-03-30 18:57:11 UTC
Phig Neutron wrote:
What if I threw a monkey wrench into the thread and just said "new constraint: no Dominixes". Nothing against it, but it seems to be the easy default so let's get some other ideas going.

2x Rattlesnakes.

I used a Rattlesnake and a VNI for a while--the VNI would orbit the RS for speedtanking and take out the smaller things with its faster lock time while the Rattlesnake would take out the larger things.
Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#14 - 2015-03-30 19:25:33 UTC
OK, but remember one character is Amarr/Minmatar and the other is Gallente.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-03-30 19:49:02 UTC
Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#16 - 2015-03-30 21:02:00 UTC
Rail Mega + Pulse Apoc or Blaster Mega + Beam Apoc or what?
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-03-30 22:10:12 UTC
Phig Neutron wrote:
Rail Mega + Pulse Apoc or Blaster Mega + Beam Apoc or what?


Second one

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

Alexstrazaas
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-03-30 22:43:01 UTC
Blaster Rokh and Sniper Rokh

all the ROKHS you need!
Oxide Ammar
#19 - 2015-03-31 09:31:55 UTC
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
Domi + Domi is an easy combo with sentry drone assist. Some of the WH guys write about using a 3 RR Domi setup to run sleeper sites or sneak into Null for DED 10's.

I've been running a Mach + Eos setup that is very mobile if you have command ships.


Dual RR sentry domi can melt any lvl 4 mission, you even don't have to care about triggers. Priority targets are like this Jamming BS > frigs > normal BS.

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.

Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#20 - 2015-04-01 12:09:38 UTC
Phig Neutron wrote:
Has anyone ever used a pairing where one ship was boosting the other with, say, remote tracking computers or something?

I use remote sb from another domi when i face heavy jammers/dampeners
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