Intergalactic Summit

Well in that case it's okay if he goes to die and sends me an invitation to the party. I see how it is a reason to celebrate excessively.



Well, let's compromise: You come over to my 'hole' and I speak those words to your face.

Thinking about it, I don't have a problem with coming over to the Federation and speaking those words again to your face over a cup of coffee or tea somewhere. Crystal boulevard is nice this time of the year. Just in case you don't want to come over to Sarum Prime or are unable to compromise for whatever other reasons that there are.



Well, as this is not a thread to mourn the fallen, but one opened to boast about his successful extermination and cry "Fear the Tribes!", I don't see how the polite request to die quietly doesn't fit into the conversation.

Why should I back up a request to die quietly with lasers? First i don't want to kill you (otherwise there would've been no need to ask you to die in the first place) and second it would lead to a death that's only temporal, if anything - and I've nothing against your crew, so I've no wish nor justification to end their life prematurely.

Your barbaric attitude to settle every dealing you have with Empire-loyal Amarr with force, taking the potential death of your crew as something so easily considered, is, quite frankly, repugnant.

Ah, so I guess you are just all talk then.



That attitude - not that it's an accurate description of the one I hold - is by no means barbaric; it's pragmatic. The Amarrians have a very long history of taking out their own issues on others by means of violence.

Udorians have a more successful, more prosperous and less oppressive society than you? Conquer and enslave them.
Sabi Sanik have theological disagreements with you? Murder and exile them.
Takhmal have theological disagreements with you? Murder and exile them.
Ni-Kunni live inoffensively in a far corner of the cluster? Conquer and enslave them.
Another tribe on the Ni-Kunni homeworld resists you? Wipe them out.
Minmatar have a prosperous, successful and technologically advanced society that functions just fine without your god? Conquer and enslave them.
Starkmanir throw you off the planet that's rightfully theirs after a half-millenia of abuse? Wipe them out.
Jovians have a prosperous, successful and technologically advanced society that functions just fine without your god? Attempt to conquer and enslave them (although thankfully, that didn't work out too well for you).
Federation has a prosperous, successful and technologically advanced society that functions better without your god? Make plans to conquer and enslave them.
Business partner becomes politically inconvenient to support? Stab him in the back.

And right now you're engaged in a war with the stated intent of re-enslaving the Minmatar, a race that broke away from the clutches of your Empire and has made it obvious in the most obvious terms possible that it has no desire to be reincorporated into your Empire. Name one problem the Empire has solved through peaceful methods when violence was an easier and quicker option. And you blame people for choosing violence before reason as tools for protecting themselves from Amarrian aggression?

But actually, the brave and noble Ms. Conventia Underking suggests that there might be another way to deal with Amarrian loyalists - that reason and dignity might actually work. But of course, surprise surprise, you're attempting to destroy the one voice that might convince us the Amarr can be reasoned with because you don't like the way she's doing it.



I know a hell of a lot about the Scriptures. In fact, studies universally show that atheists, in general, have a much better understanding of, and familiarity with, religious texts than those that adhere to the religious doctrines they outline. In a frankly hilarious twist, this understanding and familiarity is often listed as a large part of the reason that atheists don't believe those selfsame religions; they are able to perceive the logical contradictions and impossibillities inherent in them far more clearly. This is also why the Scriptures openly decry free thought of any kind - and not, as Nicoletta Mithra's apologetic (and entirely inaccurate) interpretation suggests, merely God-free thought.

There isn't any room for interpretation of the Scriptures, because this basically invalidates the dogma of the religion - if anything is open to interpretation, everything is open to interpretation and the dictates of God become as fallible as the dictates of Man. Well, I mean, in reality the dictates of "God" are just dictates of Man given a particularly ostentatious fictional framing device, but, you know, hypothesis for the benefit of argument and all that.

You might want to put an extra line between each example. Makes them stand out a bit more and makes 'em less cluttered, but I didn't want to take up too much space when I was listing them.

But, as always, happy to help.

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I think we should be reflecting on the life-death of Eran Mintor, who was the original topic of this thread, rather than argue about the same things we always do on the Summit.

I personally never knew the man, but I do hope his life-death will serve as a reminder and lesson to us all of what is truly important in life. The reaper comes for us all.

Huh, I drop of grid for a bit, come back and Eran's dead. Interesting.


I suppose that's a relief for whoever had to follow him around with a mop and bucket, because that Brutor could ******* drool.

A fair point, and the appropriate changes will be made.

Funny. I have always seen this passage as a warning against thought free of any actual reasoning. Mostly refering to one of the most spread sin in the cluster, when emotion starts to replace rational thought.

What is free thought ? Free like a freed slave, which means anybody can think freely without any restraint ? Free like free of charges, like anyone experiences thoughts that are totally free of any reflexion, reasoning, or work ?

The Word only says differently in your mind.



The TC told you so ?



I am not not sure if lowering to the level of the people you accuse of doing something (boasting about successful extermination of someone) is the thing to do ?

A pity.

Mintor is one pilot I shall never forget even if our ideals had parted ways. Ancestors be with you.