Ships & Modules

It's no proble, i could talk to myself if noone wants.

I see a huge pitential for this ship. Amazing hybrids platform with well balanced bonuses.

Simply amazing and gourges bonuses for dual! Tanking ability armor and! hull resists. Plus my always welcome armor reapair bonus. I'm thinking how much i could squize of that with deadspace mods.

well i have a halo and small blaster clone anyway so ill be sig tanking that badboy regardless, add boosts and itl still have a tiny sig for its size, you can get the confessor down to drone size with implants so ill be interested to see how small i can get this thing

Lets not add the next 2 and remove the other 2 while we're at it

Exactly, these ships way too powerfull and provide amazing abilities in certain areas not everywhere.

The T3 haters can suck eggs. The svipul os easy enogh to kill and the confessor just needs a couple of neuts/webs to put it down.

On the hecate: I can't wait to get that thing in space. It loks like a decent rail platform and will be a wonderfull combat site raider With blasters.

U mad bros?

Seriously, the destroyer class has been sorely lacking in balance since the buffs to many of the Pirate / T2 frigates. There have been numerous discussions about the absence of Navy Faction variants of Destroyers, and propositions for what they should be.

I called the Hecate's basic layout (mostly) and bonus right at a year ago now in one such discussion, but CCP went over the top and made them Tech3's instead of Faction ships, gave them modes, and a probing bonus.

From March 2014 - "
As for T2 Destroyers, I very, very rarely seen them used in Lowsec, and here's why:
"Interdictors are destroyer-sized vessels built to fill a single important tactical niche: the breaching of enemy warp tunnels."

I think there's plenty of room for Navy Destroyers. Especially if they give them a unique shape, not just a paintjob. Here's what I'd like to see:

Federation Navy Catalyst:
7x Light Ion Blaster II's (-1 turret)

Web/scram/prop (+1mid)

DC-II, EANM, Mag-stab (same lows)

(same 3 rig slots like usual).

Maybe add 3x Light Drone capacity like it's Comet sibling, and split the base speed difference between the Catalyst and the Eris.

Edit: make it 6x turrets to be fair, but make the bonuses +5% dmg and keep the +10% tracking per level.

If the turret damage alone is going to be same as the Catalyst, I'm going to go dual web hull tank, triple magstab blaster boat of doom. It will have insane MWD speed to catch stuff and probably a massive hull tank to survive, and it can spit out 650dps with heat and that's assuming it's not getting any drones. With a full flight of lights it will get 760dps and will just obliterate any frig it catches, should be able to fit a nos as well to help against minor neuting so it's not too vulnerable.

I am sad that the Hecate is not going to be a badass light/medium drone platform. I know everyone (myself included) bitches about how OP drones are but they are supposed to be Gallente's unique weapon system and I was hoping the Hecate would do something interesting in the drone department.

Sounds pessimistic so you are one of those who won't fly them huh

I just saw the Fanfest presentation about the Hecate and Jackdaw and I'd like to chip in my two cents of the Hecate bonuses, for those who are less in the loop I'll list them for you:

Gallente Tactical Destroyer Bonuses Per Level:
5% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret rate of fire
7.5% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret tracking speed
5% reduction in heat damage generated by modules

Role Bonus:
95% reduction in Scan Probe Launcher CPU requirements

Defense Mode:
33.3% bonus to all armor and hull resistances while Defense Mode is active
33.3% bonus to armor repairer effectiveness while Defense Mode is active

Propulsion Mode:
66.6% bonus to MWD speed boost and reduction in MWD capacitor use while Propulsion Mode is active
33.3% bonus to ship inertia modifier while Propulsion Mode is active

Sharpshooter Mode:
66.6% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret optimal range while Sharpshooter Mode is active
100% bonus to sensor strength, scan resolution and targeting range while Sharpshooter Mode is active

Slot Layout: 7H, 4M, 4L, 6 turrets

The way I see it, this ship has 1 obvious flaw, that is Capacitor Usage.

This ship being a hybrid ship needs capacitor to fire, capacitor for it's armor repairer, capacitor for it's MWD (which even with the Propulsion Mode bonus still uses nearly twice as much capacitor per cycle as an Afterburner), then there is the propulsion jamming modules and the obvious need for an explosive armor hardener since all Gallente ships have terrible Explosive resistances.

In the following fit:
6x Light Neuton Blaster II with Void S

1x 1MN Microwarpdrive II
1x Warp Scrambler II
1x Stasis Webifier II
1x Small Capacitor Booster II

1x Small Armor Repairer II
1x Armor Explosive Hardener II
1x Damage Control II
1x Energised Adaptive Nano Membrane II

This ship would use:
4.21GJ/sec for its 6 Guns
1.25GJ/sec for its MWD
1.7GJ/sec for its Propulsion Jamming Modules
8.89GJ/sec for its Armor Repairer
1.5GJ/sec for it's Armor Hardener

That's 17.55GJ/sec, more than most PvP Cruisers.

With all these modules running at once cycling cap booster 200 charges and using either Semiconductor Memory Cell or Capacitor Control Circuits in all of it's Rig Slots, the Hecate still would barely be capacitor stable (19.6GJ/sec with cap booser 200 cycling).

I'd like to propose two changes to this ship to address these ends:

Firstly changing the 5% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret rate of fire per level to 5% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret damage per level. That way the damage would increase without increasing the capacitor usage.

Secondly reducing the number of Hi Slots to 6 and turret hard points to 5.
To compensate for the loss of a turret hardpoint give the ship 15mbit/sec drone bandwidth and a 50m3 drone bay.
Three Hobgoblin II with Max skills would provide the Hecate 59.4 dps.
One Small Neuton Blaster II with Void S and Max skills including the Hecate's bonuses provides 53.3 dps.
An acceptable trade.

With this the Hecate would have reduced the Capacitor need for it's Guns from 4.21GJ/sec to a much more reasonable 2.80GJ/sec, that means the ship can be Cap Stable with the Active Buffering fit, has comparable DPS and will be able to use drones which will please the die hard Gallente.

Also, and you can thank me later for pointing this out, the Hecate won't turn into a up-armored Catalyst with three Magnetic Field Stabilizers and a Damage Control that has no issues using a Microwarpdrive constantly due to the massively reduced capacitor cost and signature radius.

(Edited for flawed math on the regeneration rate, didn't multiply max capacitor over recharge rate by 2.4 for max regeneration rate at 30%. The sighted fitting which would be a full tank Hecate would be cap stable. Wrote this at 2am local time, gimme a break =P)