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Corp Theft Report

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AntiMatter Evoria
Epicentre Syndicate
#1 - 2015-03-28 11:48:53 UTC
Part of the game and all but it's also a part of the game that you have repercussions for your actions. The only repercussions in a sandbox is your credibility and reputation in the eyes of other players.

Snatch Boz was a recruit in my corporation who before downtime left with a fellow member's Legion from the public hangar. Unfortunately given that it was downtime I couldn't muster anything to prohibit him leaving the wormhole. So just be aware that this pilot is not to be trusted if you see him in your recruitment channel, anyone that completes API checks will see the appropriate act on the API (dated 28/03/2015) anyway so I don't see many half decent corps trusting this char again.

Crime and Punishment ladies and gents! If anyone wants screenshots from the API for proof, contact me in-game for it.

Regards,
AntiMatter Evoria (CEO - EPICentre Syndicate)
Black Pedro
Mine.
#2 - 2015-03-28 12:04:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Black Pedro
AntiMatter Evoria wrote:
Part of the game and all but it's also a part of the game that you have repercussions for your actions. The only repercussions in a sandbox is your credibility and reputation in the eyes of other players.

Snatch Boz was a recruit in my corporation who before downtime left with a fellow member's Legion from the public hangar. Unfortunately given that it was downtime I couldn't muster anything to prohibit him leaving the wormhole. So just be aware that this pilot is not to be trusted if you see him in your recruitment channel, anyone that completes API checks will see the appropriate act on the API (dated 28/03/2015) anyway so I don't see many half decent corps trusting this char again.

Crime and Punishment ladies and gents! If anyone wants screenshots from the API for proof, contact me in-game for it.

Regards,
AntiMatter Evoria (CEO - EPICentre Syndicate)

Maybe it was an honest mistake? Legions often look alike. I would like to hear Snatch's version of the events before I pass judgement.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2015-03-28 12:16:37 UTC
I know I've had that exact same issue. My old toyota camry looked a LOT like many others of it's kind, and I did in fact once sit down in someone else's car without realizing it.
I should have taken it, as what tipped me off was that their car was much cleaner than mine.

I too would like to hear the accused's side of the story.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

AntiMatter Evoria
Epicentre Syndicate
#4 - 2015-03-28 12:24:45 UTC
Black Pedro wrote:
AntiMatter Evoria wrote:
Part of the game and all but it's also a part of the game that you have repercussions for your actions. The only repercussions in a sandbox is your credibility and reputation in the eyes of other players.

Snatch Boz was a recruit in my corporation who before downtime left with a fellow member's Legion from the public hangar. Unfortunately given that it was downtime I couldn't muster anything to prohibit him leaving the wormhole. So just be aware that this pilot is not to be trusted if you see him in your recruitment channel, anyone that completes API checks will see the appropriate act on the API (dated 28/03/2015) anyway so I don't see many half decent corps trusting this char again.

Crime and Punishment ladies and gents! If anyone wants screenshots from the API for proof, contact me in-game for it.

Regards,
AntiMatter Evoria (CEO - EPICentre Syndicate)

Maybe it was an honest mistake? Legion's often look alike. I would like to hear Snatch's version of the events before I pass judgement.



You can feel free to do so by convo'ing him. But he did it immediately before downtime after purchasing the skillbook to fly it 20 minutes previously. It was the same name as the other members ship, with all the same modules on it and he flew his own ships out just prior. I have screenshots confirming all of that which as I've said I will gladly pass on to those that ask. He also logged in immediately after downtime, dropping corp and not responding to my mail. He was also asked in corp chat 3 times by the person who's ship it was. Now after downtime I had a confirmed scout on him travelling to Jita presumably to sell it.

It's completely up to interpretation what/who you believe in this game, but I know from doing it that an API check will reveal what I said to be true and also that anyone reading this will naturally be more cautious around this player. Which is all I want because anyone that does that won't be caught by this. Well played steal in the name of the sandbox but you get a nice bit of negative reputation to go along with it.
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2015-03-28 14:06:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Don Purple
Ya know.. if its in a place with general acess doesnt it belong to who ever takes it?
I mean as ceo it was under your authority that he has the ship.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.

AntiMatter Evoria
Epicentre Syndicate
#6 - 2015-03-28 14:51:40 UTC
Pretty correct but as a wormhole corp operating out of PoS structures and the way the coding and permission system exists in that part of EVE ('legacy code' hated by quite a few of us I assure you) . There is an element of trust among the lower tier members or else recruits and low level members would be restricted to one ship at a time flying in/out as and when they need them. This severely inhibits running wormhole activities and makes logistics a pain in everyone's backside.
All recruits have access to the communal array and are free to store ships there if they choose, the policy being if you need/want to use someone else's ship ask and/or replace it when you are done. Corp theft and spying is something no one is completely immune to in EVE. Anyone could make an alt account with the intention of rising through the ranks of a corp. People can only exercise common sense and judgement in what they do and who they trust.

This was in no way a huge steal. The player in question was a low-ranking member that had been in for a short while and managed to take the only ship of real value in that array before being locked out. You could question why a low-level member chose to store a Legion there but again that's not the statement I'm trying to make. The only thing I wanted to do was warn others and get this person's name out there for people to see for future reference.
Paranoid Loyd
#7 - 2015-03-28 15:02:51 UTC
You let someone named SNATCH into your corp and he stole from you. I never would have seen that coming. Roll

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

AntiMatter Evoria
Epicentre Syndicate
#8 - 2015-03-28 15:05:03 UTC  |  Edited by: AntiMatter Evoria
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
You let someone named SNATCH into your corp and he stole from you. I never would have seen that coming. Roll


I was waiting for someone to notice that Bear But yeah he passed the security checks what more can I say. I've seen some hilarious names floating around.

Paranoid Loyd I imagine would make people question your intel as a scout I assume? Big smile
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-03-28 15:09:58 UTC
If you use an SAA to store your stuff in there is literally no way someone can steal from your tower.

Did this in team pizza.

Learn to manage your roles and it won't happen.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

flakeys
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-03-28 15:47:56 UTC
It is called a public hangar for a reason though , isn't it ? Roll

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-03-28 18:39:03 UTC
Only stole one ship?

I don't think that counts.
Crawlblood
#12 - 2015-03-28 20:42:42 UTC
obviously a minion of nitche

Rude, Obnoxious and somewhat in you face.

Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#13 - 2015-03-29 00:28:47 UTC
OP, you have trust issues.

This was obviously just a mistake.

Also, allow me to introduce my good friend IPodBlues.

I believe he would like to join your corp.

Cool

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-03-29 01:08:48 UTC
Crawlblood wrote:
obviously a minion of nitche


Thank god I'm not the only one who realizes this.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#15 - 2015-03-29 01:59:28 UTC
InB4 elite space-lawyer Unsuccessful At Everything tells us the REAL story behind what this abusive corp is calling "corp theft".

Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.

Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#16 - 2015-03-29 03:02:50 UTC
AntiMatter Evoria wrote:
Pretty correct but as a wormhole corp operating out of PoS structures and the way the coding and permission system exists in that part of EVE ('legacy code' hated by quite a few of us I assure you) . There is an element of trust among the lower tier members or else recruits and low level members would be restricted to one ship at a time flying in/out as and when they need them. This severely inhibits running wormhole activities and makes logistics a pain in everyone's backside.
All recruits have access to the communal array and are free to store ships there if they choose, the policy being if you need/want to use someone else's ship ask and/or replace it when you are done. Corp theft and spying is something no one is completely immune to in EVE. Anyone could make an alt account with the intention of rising through the ranks of a corp. People can only exercise common sense and judgement in what they do and who they trust.

This was in no way a huge steal. The player in question was a low-ranking member that had been in for a short while and managed to take the only ship of real value in that array before being locked out. You could question why a low-level member chose to store a Legion there but again that's not the statement I'm trying to make. The only thing I wanted to do was warn others and get this person's name out there for people to see for future reference.


Good effort, it is a shame most the people you are warning are the ones who would commit the act :D

I do like the responce though, I would enjoy chatting in game some time.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.

Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#17 - 2015-03-29 04:05:41 UTC
I'd look at your hanger as to which ships can my alts fly... Do they have shinies and do I care if I hurt them... This is eve so hell no let me see that isk!!!!

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#18 - 2015-03-29 06:50:46 UTC
Something does not add up in your testimony.

"He purchased the skillbook to fly it only 20 minutes previously".......

The Legion requires six prerequisite skills that are not used by any other ships in the game, and assuming a favorable remap, your accusee would have needed to buy 6 skills and spend more than double that time getting them all to level 1.


I was going to congratulate Snatch on the snatch, but it appears that he is not guilty of the crime of being awesome.

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Dilligafmofo
3WAYFOUNDATIONS
New Miner's Union
#19 - 2015-03-29 07:50:37 UTC
I do the same thing all the time. If the ashtray in my car is full, or the glove box filled with underwear from ladies of dubious morals, I simply grab another car from the local multi story car spares.... I mean car park !

Saves cleaning or being caught by the wife :P
AntiMatter Evoria
Epicentre Syndicate
#20 - 2015-03-29 23:54:22 UTC
Don Purple wrote:
AntiMatter Evoria wrote:
Pretty correct but as a wormhole corp operating out of PoS structures and the way the coding and permission system exists in that part of EVE ('legacy code' hated by quite a few of us I assure you) . There is an element of trust among the lower tier members or else recruits and low level members would be restricted to one ship at a time flying in/out as and when they need them. This severely inhibits running wormhole activities and makes logistics a pain in everyone's backside.
All recruits have access to the communal array and are free to store ships there if they choose, the policy being if you need/want to use someone else's ship ask and/or replace it when you are done. Corp theft and spying is something no one is completely immune to in EVE. Anyone could make an alt account with the intention of rising through the ranks of a corp. People can only exercise common sense and judgement in what they do and who they trust.

This was in no way a huge steal. The player in question was a low-ranking member that had been in for a short while and managed to take the only ship of real value in that array before being locked out. You could question why a low-level member chose to store a Legion there but again that's not the statement I'm trying to make. The only thing I wanted to do was warn others and get this person's name out there for people to see for future reference.


Good effort, it is a shame most the people you are warning are the ones who would commit the act :D

I do like the responce though, I would enjoy chatting in game some time.


I know full well most of the people that view this are more interested in the cool awox stories that i don't have :D Just a casual boring "snatch" and grab (pardon the pun). But yeah i did what i set out to do and put the name out there. This kind of stuff is part of EVE and that's what makes it the game it is. I don't want that to change, the game would just be glorified PvE if there were more restrictions on what players can do. Eventually everyone would cuddle up in to a big blue ball and spend there game time mining and running missions. Pretty boring if there isn't player interaction that has the possibility to go wrong.

Maybe we can chat in game sometime who knows what could happen...

Oh and to the guy referencing "Unsuccessful At Everything", I enjoy everything he writes but this isn't exactly an interesting case for the Crime and Punishment defense attorney to turn his attention to. He is already working hard to help defend James Saagh righteous actions against the Brave Collective in favour of his wallet.
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