Ships & Modules

My name is Nitsu, I am a 5 year vet in the world of EvE. My master started me out very wrongly as a warrior but then trained only mining skills for a year and a half. I then was trained in PvP skills the rest of my tenure after being joined by four more accounts as time went by. I can fly every race to carrier and shoot every gun in the game. My industrial brethren beg to have something new in the way of deep space mining.

Idea 1: Titan sized mining ship designed to "Eat" the roids and crush them down into compressed blocks much like the Rorqual. It doesn't have to be fast or efficient till higher skills and of course not able to fire a weapon. This would be the ultimate mining vessel. The process of picking up the roids would likely take time like a siege cycle and makes the ship even more vulnerable. The ship itself makes the character unusable in anything else so there is another penalty as well to its use.

Idea 2: Make capital mining lasers to be mounted on the Rorquals. Give the lasers an insane amount of possible throughput with required skills. Keeping this sort of thing in check: The lasers throughput is less then that of a strip miner until it is put in Siege mode and then the magic happends; Mining and compressing at the same time with the risk of reds/wartargets ending its life.

Idea 3: Sorta off topic but i am tired and am not making a new thread this late... Add a LFTL (Limited Faster Then Light-Speed) modual to the game. This allows the ship that it is "Clamped" on to be able to activate a one time use cyno engine to move them at max 5 LY. Limitations: Skills, Better acompaning skills means farther distance. One and done, The external modual is a one time use item and then it explodes on landing in the destination system. Inconvenient and cumbersome, this mod is so large and resource hungry that it needs to be used first before you can fire one round/missile.

Idea 4: New ship/Modual designed to allow a probe to be shot out of a ship to "Tag" a roid to make it "Hop" inside the same system to a POS so mining ships and so on can be relativity safe. Limitations: System needs to be upgraded for this to be possible. The POS needs a special high cost array. Varying skill levels makes it harder to move the roids and they might get stock halfway. The probe works like scanning a moon and is hit and miss.

Thanks,
Sorry for the wall of text.

1. Like the veldnaught? Nullsec would suddenly be full of bots driving the things, prices would drop, etc. etc.

2. Roids don't appear within the shields of a PoS. If you're deploying outside of the shield, ur doin it rong, and are gankbait.

3. A single-use cyno usable in highsec, to escape suicide ganks? People'd use them to hotdrop in highsec. Imagine, if you will, someone finding your mission space. Then 15 other ships showing up, taking every single wreck, killing the rats, and then you if you aggress them. Or 200 goons suddenly appearing in an ice belt without warning and proceeding to suicide-gank everything, then loot and salvage the remains.

4 So, MOVING a bookmarkable celestial object? Impractical as hell for the server side of things. Not gonna happen.

People have this weird idea that increasing the max yield means more income, it won't. All that happens is the mineral prices adjusting to the newly increased supply. If such a ridiculous ship would exist people would clean 0.0 belts like mad meaning more mineral supply and thus dropping the prices. Resulting in the exact same income for the people that DO have said ship are a massive income loss for people that don't.

If you want to make mining more profitable then have a look at loot reprocessing, THAT needs to be adjusted (lowered) meaning that lvl 4s and the Drone Regions become less profitable (it's silly atm). Result is a decreased supply in minerals meaning more money for miners as a whole. You'll get ofcourse even MORE miners resulting in lower profits but at least it's the MINERS that get it.

If you'd fit a bit of EHP on that, easily doable, you can fix that yourself!

This has close to 19K ehp, meaning it needs a lot more effort to take down and any "spur of the moment" ganks will fail as they won't assume you tanked it at all. Still has an MLU, still has a survey scanner, still has cargo rigs. It doesn't have bling fittings so it's not more of a target (either for lulz or drops). Stop being bad.


[Hulk, tanked]
Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Small Shield Extender II
Small F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Invulnerability Field II
Survey Scanner II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I

25k EHP costing a ton and thus becoming a target or 19k EHP meaning you'd need 2 BS (or tier 3 BC) while not costing anything more than any other Hulk, resulting in them probably going for another target. And as stated, it's more than double from a std Hulk so any rush job ganks will fail.

I'm sure you fit Estamel gear to your ships, because that tanks WAY more so you won't get ganked, right?


Overheated Cata does <600 dps, lets assume 20 second concord reaction time. Result, fail.

800 dps cata doesn't exist. Also, you're very optimistic about concord reaction times, not everyone mines in a 0.5 you know.

In short; lots of blahblah, backed by numbers that aren't realistic.

While I dont think eve needs ships that mine anymore than they already do your statement is false, just because people mine more per cycle doesn't mean minerals drop in value. When I first started playing trit was worth 1, pyerite 4, mexallon 12, ISO 60 something, nocx was 112 or so, zyd was 1024 and mega went for 10000. And that was the age of the apoc with named miner 1s. Since than we've seen miner 2s, barges and the hulk yet the only minerals that sell for less are the high ends.

Research what is called the "mineral basket price" and you'll see why you are wrong. Long story short: the price gain for Trit/Pye came directly from making Zyd and Mega so much cheaper from more supply. :)

-Liang

Hey, Goose? You suck at fitting if you could only get 25k with deadspace mods.

[Hulk, 28k Tank]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

Medium Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Survey Scanner II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I