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Skils You Refuse to Train to V

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Justin Zaine
#21 - 2015-03-14 01:42:24 UTC
digitalwanderer wrote:
Anything that isn't related to ships in some way in order to make them better.....That said, I am already at 211 skill at level 5 on ship related skills and have maybe another 50~60 ahead to max everything out that I want on the ship front.


So I'm nearly at 250 million sp, and have enough to maybe reach 300 million sp and 260~270 skills to lvl 5, at which the ultimate goal is reached, and can fly every ship class, from every race, regardless of it's load out, to their maximum potential.


This ultimate goal will have taken nearly 14 years to achieve and I'm almost at the 12 year mark right now, to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....Value of this achievement?....Priceless.


I'll pay you 1.6 bil for your toon. Offer is good for 12 hours.

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.

digitalwanderer
DW inc
#22 - 2015-03-14 05:18:02 UTC
Justin Zaine wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
Anything that isn't related to ships in some way in order to make them better.....That said, I am already at 211 skill at level 5 on ship related skills and have maybe another 50~60 ahead to max everything out that I want on the ship front.


So I'm nearly at 250 million sp, and have enough to maybe reach 300 million sp and 260~270 skills to lvl 5, at which the ultimate goal is reached, and can fly every ship class, from every race, regardless of it's load out, to their maximum potential.


This ultimate goal will have taken nearly 14 years to achieve and I'm almost at the 12 year mark right now, to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....Value of this achievement?....Priceless.


I'll pay you 1.6 bil for your toon. Offer is good for 12 hours.


Ha.....Your funny, as I keep that kind of isk as loose change...:)
Justin Zaine
#23 - 2015-03-14 09:21:45 UTC
digitalwanderer wrote:
Justin Zaine wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
Anything that isn't related to ships in some way in order to make them better.....That said, I am already at 211 skill at level 5 on ship related skills and have maybe another 50~60 ahead to max everything out that I want on the ship front.


So I'm nearly at 250 million sp, and have enough to maybe reach 300 million sp and 260~270 skills to lvl 5, at which the ultimate goal is reached, and can fly every ship class, from every race, regardless of it's load out, to their maximum potential.


This ultimate goal will have taken nearly 14 years to achieve and I'm almost at the 12 year mark right now, to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....Value of this achievement?....Priceless.


I'll pay you 1.6 bil for your toon. Offer is good for 12 hours.


Ha.....Your funny, as I keep that kind of isk as loose change...:)


Don't patronize me mister. That is some serious isk and a good offer. Consider it. Only 4 hrs remaining.

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.

digitalwanderer
DW inc
#24 - 2015-03-14 19:08:50 UTC
Justin Zaine wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
Justin Zaine wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
Anything that isn't related to ships in some way in order to make them better.....That said, I am already at 211 skill at level 5 on ship related skills and have maybe another 50~60 ahead to max everything out that I want on the ship front.


So I'm nearly at 250 million sp, and have enough to maybe reach 300 million sp and 260~270 skills to lvl 5, at which the ultimate goal is reached, and can fly every ship class, from every race, regardless of it's load out, to their maximum potential.


This ultimate goal will have taken nearly 14 years to achieve and I'm almost at the 12 year mark right now, to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....Value of this achievement?....Priceless.


I'll pay you 1.6 bil for your toon. Offer is good for 12 hours.


Ha.....Your funny, as I keep that kind of isk as loose change...:)


Don't patronize me mister. That is some serious isk and a good offer. Consider it. Only 4 hrs remaining.



You're talking to a char that has over 100 billion in assets and isk, so yes your 1.6 billion offer is pathetic for a char that has needed nearly 12 years of training to reach this point, regardless of assets or isk accumulated in that time.


Frankly, that "generous" offer can almost be considered insulting.
Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
#25 - 2015-03-14 19:14:24 UTC
Two weeks before you hit your goal they will add more skills for you to train. Can't let anyone think they have beaten the game.
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#26 - 2015-03-15 23:45:50 UTC
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Two weeks before you hit your goal they will add more skills for you to train. Can't let anyone think they have beaten the game.


This. New class of Black Ops Mining Barge.

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ArmyOfMe
Teddybears.
Dead Terrorists
#27 - 2015-03-15 23:47:31 UTC
and none combat related skill

GM Guard > I must ask you not to use the petition option like this again but i personally would finish the chicken sandwich first so it won´t go to waste. The spaghetti will keep and you can use it the next time you get hungry. Best regards.

digitalwanderer
DW inc
#28 - 2015-03-16 20:00:40 UTC  |  Edited by: digitalwanderer
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Two weeks before you hit your goal they will add more skills for you to train. Can't let anyone think they have beaten the game.



Since I'm not interested at all in corporation skills, mining, production, research or marketing, they better hurry up since the amount of skills that affect ships in some way or form, is dwindling fast.


I wouldn't normally screw around with 26 day long skills for a 2% bonus, but that's what I'm left with.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#29 - 2015-03-17 00:07:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
digitalwanderer wrote:
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Two weeks before you hit your goal they will add more skills for you to train. Can't let anyone think they have beaten the game.



Since I'm not interested at all in corporation skills, mining, production, research or marketing, they better hurry up since the amount of skills that affect ships in some way or form, is dwindling fast.


I wouldn't normally screw around with 26 day long skills for a 2% bonus, but that's what I'm left with.
You do have a great skill sheet. But you also have a lot of what I think of as wasted SP, for a combat char. But then that may not have been your goal.
No offence intended, like I said it's a great sheet.

As to the question in the OP.

Mining and industry. Both skills came with the creation of Mag's and neither are wanted. I shall train all other combat related skills to 5.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

digitalwanderer
DW inc
#30 - 2015-03-21 05:29:29 UTC
Mag's wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Two weeks before you hit your goal they will add more skills for you to train. Can't let anyone think they have beaten the game.



Since I'm not interested at all in corporation skills, mining, production, research or marketing, they better hurry up since the amount of skills that affect ships in some way or form, is dwindling fast.


I wouldn't normally screw around with 26 day long skills for a 2% bonus, but that's what I'm left with.
You do have a great skill sheet. But you also have a lot of what I think of as wasted SP, for a combat char. But then that may not have been your goal.
No offence intended, like I said it's a great sheet.

As to the question in the OP.

Mining and industry. Both skills came with the creation of Mag's and neither are wanted. I shall train all other combat related skills to 5.



Not really the goal indeed, but it does allow the char to assume quite a lot of roles within a combat environment using pretty much any ship class, even a support role like ECM......With all the electronics skills maxed as they are, I'd be a nightmare in a falcon and it doesn't involve actually shooting anyone......Twisted
Aeryn Maricadie
Magister Mortalis.
Undead Nation
#31 - 2015-03-22 22:12:24 UTC
Chance Ravinne wrote:
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
In addition to some of the above ...

Astrometric Acquisition, Pinpointing -- I did it on one character and wouldn't do it again

Hacking (this is worth training to 5 if you do the new sleeper cache sites)

Advanced Target Mgt except for maybe Logi

Science Invention skills (Electromagnetic Physics, etc.) Almost a year of training for <2% improved chance of success



I did some quick math, and in order for Astrometrics Acquisition to pay for itself... that is, for it to save you the amount of time in scanning that you spent training it, you would have to do somewhere around 500,000 probe scans.

I guess if you include the bonus of equipping the T2 scan array, maybe 200,000. Still...

I know it's not the only factor, but goddamn that is a good argument never to train it.


Its worth it if you live in a WH
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#32 - 2015-03-23 02:02:07 UTC
Aeryn Maricadie wrote:
Chance Ravinne wrote:
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
In addition to some of the above ...

Astrometric Acquisition, Pinpointing -- I did it on one character and wouldn't do it again

Hacking (this is worth training to 5 if you do the new sleeper cache sites)

Advanced Target Mgt except for maybe Logi

Science Invention skills (Electromagnetic Physics, etc.) Almost a year of training for <2% improved chance of success



I did some quick math, and in order for Astrometrics Acquisition to pay for itself... that is, for it to save you the amount of time in scanning that you spent training it, you would have to do somewhere around 500,000 probe scans.

I guess if you include the bonus of equipping the T2 scan array, maybe 200,000. Still...

I know it's not the only factor, but goddamn that is a good argument never to train it.


Its worth it if you live in a WH



Perfect scanning really comes into its own when you can scan down pilots in one or two scans. Guys who log out, or guys who think that they have a lot of time. Battleships and capitals that take time to align. Those kills make the training time worth it.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#33 - 2015-03-24 01:56:39 UTC
Jump Portal Generation past level 1.

Because I'll never pilot a titan, and it is useless past level 1 for Black Ops.
Aivo Dresden
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2015-03-24 08:30:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Aivo Dresden
RavenPaine wrote:
Perfect scanning really comes into its own when you can scan down pilots in one or two scans. Guys who log out, or guys who think that they have a lot of time. Battleships and capitals that take time to align. Those kills make the training time worth it.
This is actually very true. For scanning down holes it's not that important but for hostile ships it could mean the difference between getting a nice kill or being just 2 seconds too late.

The scanning skills are next on my list of things to train, once the current 3-4 skills are done.
Adrian Maifeld
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2015-03-24 10:54:02 UTC
digitalwanderer wrote:
[...] to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....[...]


Sorry, but I have to post this!

Really priceless!
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#36 - 2015-03-25 04:22:13 UTC
Adrian Maifeld wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
[...] to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....[...]


Sorry, but I have to post this!

Really priceless!



Someone killed a PVE ship in '14
Then you posted somebody else's PVE kill in '15

Priceless indeed Roll
Daimus Daranius
Warcrows
Shattered Foundations
#37 - 2015-03-25 08:59:31 UTC
Justin Zaine wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
Anything that isn't related to ships in some way in order to make them better.....That said, I am already at 211 skill at level 5 on ship related skills and have maybe another 50~60 ahead to max everything out that I want on the ship front.


So I'm nearly at 250 million sp, and have enough to maybe reach 300 million sp and 260~270 skills to lvl 5, at which the ultimate goal is reached, and can fly every ship class, from every race, regardless of it's load out, to their maximum potential.


This ultimate goal will have taken nearly 14 years to achieve and I'm almost at the 12 year mark right now, to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....Value of this achievement?....Priceless.


I'll pay you 1.6 bil for your toon. Offer is good for 12 hours.


And I'll pay you double that amount if you evemail me pics of your naked girlfriend.
Offer is good for 24 hours.

I also need a proof that she actually is your girlfriend, so you can't just use image of some random girl you found on the Internet. She could be holding a cardboard piece with the text " I ♥ Justin Zaine", for example.

Amarr Victor!

Big Lynx
#38 - 2015-03-25 20:52:08 UTC
Adrian Maifeld wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
[...] to become the ultimate ship pilot char.....[...]


Sorry, but I have to post this!

Really priceless!

Brrrruuuhhaahahahahaaaa
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#39 - 2015-03-26 12:29:36 UTC
Lucine Delacourt wrote:
Two weeks before you hit your goal they will add more skills for you to train. Can't let anyone think they have beaten the game.


More likely they'll split more skills into multiple skills where each of the 4 new skills only does 1/4 of what the original skill did but the multiplier is only reduced from 4 to 3 or similar. Y'know, like they've already started doing.
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2015-03-28 08:23:08 UTC
Jump Portal Generation

I have it for black ops use. Even if I decided to train up for a Titan, I doubt I'd take that 14x skill to 5.
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