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Don MoZe
Thukka Tribe
#1 - 2015-03-27 21:41:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Don MoZe
Hi

So yea i wanted to gank some scanners in their Astero inside a Relic site..

I scanned down the signature, warp'd to the site to check if it was made, jump'd one system to pick up my pilgrim and back in the relic site..

But then the signature despawns even though i didnt do the cans..!



Is this suppose to be game mechanics !?

The eve wiki is really weak with info on this subject
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-03-27 21:44:20 UTC
Don MoZe wrote:
Hi

So yea i wanted to gank some scanners in their Astero inside a Relic site..

I scanned down the signature, warp'd to the site to check if it was made, jump'd one system to pick up my pilgrim and back in the relic site..

But then the signature despawns even though i didnt do the cans..!



Is this suppose to be game mechanics !?



Somebody else went in and hacked it while you were gone to get the Pilgrim?

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Noriko Mai
#3 - 2015-03-27 21:47:39 UTC
Gimme Sake wrote:
Don MoZe wrote:
Hi

So yea i wanted to gank some scanners in their Astero inside a Relic site..

I scanned down the signature, warp'd to the site to check if it was made, jump'd one system to pick up my pilgrim and back in the relic site..

But then the signature despawns even though i didnt do the cans..!



Is this suppose to be game mechanics !?



Somebody else went in and hacked it while you were gone to get the Pilgrim?

/thread

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#4 - 2015-03-27 22:15:26 UTC
A good explorer knows that gankers will hit a site ahead of time.

The Astero pilot may well have expected this, didn't make assumptions, and was able to hack the cans during the time it took to get another ship. An Astero can do that.

Yet everybody still says that "PVP" only involves guns and killmails. Too bad there's no way to record this kind of victory (getting what you want without firing a shot and/or losing a ship).

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#5 - 2015-03-27 22:21:44 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Yet everybody still says that "PVP" only involves guns and killmails.

What?

OP seems like you came up against an explorer who knew how to handle the situation.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-03-27 22:28:13 UTC
Oh. Gee. Was I supposed to wait there for him to gank me? My bad! Shocked

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2015-03-27 22:28:48 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Yet everybody still says that "PVP" only involves guns and killmails.

What?

OP seems like you came up against an explorer who knew how to handle the situation.


Or one that was so oblivious to the situation that he wet full Roadrunner and just totally roboscanned it, hacked it, looted it, and went on his way while OP went all Wiley Coyote, and missed the kill because his rocket went off backwards or some ****.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#8 - 2015-03-27 23:42:52 UTC
Yup the astero finished before you got the ship and GTFOed

The Drake is a Lie
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-03-28 00:07:54 UTC
It takes like... 2-3 minutes, to hack a site.

Aren't you supposed to scan with the ship you're using to shoot?
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#10 - 2015-03-28 01:03:03 UTC
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
It takes like... 2-3 minutes, to hack a site.

Aren't you supposed to scan with the ship you're using to shoot?

No, of course not. That doesn't even make sense.

Of course it's *doable*, but it's not really *sensible to do*.
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-03-28 01:10:29 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
It takes like... 2-3 minutes, to hack a site.

Aren't you supposed to scan with the ship you're using to shoot?

No, of course not. That doesn't even make sense.

Of course it's *doable*, but it's not really *sensible to do*.

I do not understand how that "doesn't make sense."

Are exploration Frigates really so scary that you can't afford to take out a Stratios?

"sensible?" jeepers.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#12 - 2015-03-28 01:33:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
I remember you as a hater, who has a rather bad attitude toward *the people* who play gankers.


Thus I refuse to converse with you about this topic.


In any case can I deduct that you do seem to lack understanding of ship fittings
and how a fitting usually is "fit for a job", because that's effective.


Also: Your hate, superiority issues and true face shows. Bye.
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Orlacc
#13 - 2015-03-28 05:13:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
Boy some swifties in this thread!


You scan down site and then stealth and wait to gank. In the same ship you scanned with. Is that so hard? "Wait here while I go change ships please."

If you leave, there is a chance that someone comes and hacks site. No gank.

You come back...no site. (They despawn one hour after first visit, whether by you or someone else.)

And I am no hater, just don't like ignorant folks who don't know of what they speak.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-03-28 05:20:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tuttomenui II
Gimme Sake wrote:
Don MoZe wrote:
Hi

So yea i wanted to gank some scanners in their Astero inside a Relic site..

I scanned down the signature, warp'd to the site to check if it was made, jump'd one system to pick up my pilgrim and back in the relic site..

But then the signature despawns even though i didnt do the cans..!



Is this suppose to be game mechanics !?



Somebody else went in and hacked it while you were gone to get the Pilgrim?


I've found archaeology sites that are anomalies (not needing to be scanned) around Osmon and if you warp to them then leave and go back it will despawn the hackable structures even though they hadn't been hacked.
kes88
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-03-28 14:17:58 UTC  |  Edited by: kes88
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
A good explorer knows that gankers will hit a site ahead of time.

The Astero pilot may well have expected this, didn't make assumptions, and was able to hack the cans during the time it took to get another ship. An Astero can do that.

Yet everybody still says that "PVP" only involves guns and killmails. Too bad there's no way to record this kind of victory (getting what you want without firing a shot and/or losing a ship).


I've had a couple of moments, particularly in low (edit) sec exploration where I've managed to warp out of hairy situations giggling. It would be nice to be able to share those moments, but to be honest the sheer high you feel with getting away is awesome on it's own. Big smile

Edit: for low sec, not null.
Nalia White
Tencus
#16 - 2015-03-28 14:21:17 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Boy some swifties in this thread!


You scan down site and then stealth and wait to gank. In the same ship you scanned with. Is that so hard? "Wait here while I go change ships please."

If you leave, there is a chance that someone comes and hacks site. No gank.

You come back...no site. (They despawn one hour after first visit, whether by you or someone else.)

And I am no hater, just don't like ignorant folks who don't know of what they speak.


they despawn one hour after the first hack attempt, not visit.

Syndicate - K5-JRD

Home to few, graveyard for many

My biggest achievement
Orlacc
#17 - 2015-03-28 17:07:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
Tuttomenui II wrote:
Gimme Sake wrote:
Don MoZe wrote:
Hi

So yea i wanted to gank some scanners in their Astero inside a Relic site..

I scanned down the signature, warp'd to the site to check if it was made, jump'd one system to pick up my pilgrim and back in the relic site..

But then the signature despawns even though i didnt do the cans..!



Is this suppose to be game mechanics !?



Somebody else went in and hacked it while you were gone to get the Pilgrim?


I've found archaeology sites that are anomalies (not needing to be scanned) around Osmon and if you warp to them then leave and go back it will despawn the hackable structures even though they hadn't been hacked.



Archaeology anomalies now? Cool. No need for probes.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
#18 - 2015-03-28 17:28:08 UTC
hahahahahahahahahaha

Everything's a game if you make it one - Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci

CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase - Frostys Virpio
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-03-28 22:35:19 UTC
Tuttomenui II wrote:
Gimme Sake wrote:
Don MoZe wrote:
Hi

So yea i wanted to gank some scanners in their Astero inside a Relic site..

I scanned down the signature, warp'd to the site to check if it was made, jump'd one system to pick up my pilgrim and back in the relic site..

But then the signature despawns even though i didnt do the cans..!



Is this suppose to be game mechanics !?



Somebody else went in and hacked it while you were gone to get the Pilgrim?


I've found archaeology sites that are anomalies (not needing to be scanned) around Osmon and if you warp to them then leave and go back it will despawn the hackable structures even though they hadn't been hacked.



Those are "lesser research labs" or something like that. If you warp in a timer starts and you must complete hacking all the cans within the given period. If you fail to do it in time some hostile npc cruisers spawn or/and the containers explode.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#20 - 2015-03-29 07:50:44 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
(They despawn one hour after first visit, whether by you or someone else.


This is not correct. They despawn an hour or so after the first hack attempt, whether succesful or not (note that the can will remain and appear full after a single failed hack.) you can visit and warp out as much as you want, as long as you don't touch the cans.