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Amarr/Minmatar Warzone Updates

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Shiva Makoto
Blue Canary
Watch This
#61 - 2015-03-26 22:26:18 UTC
Seeing that someone necro'd this thread i can give a quick AAR/situation update.

After the warzone was taken and the slaves got shown their place it was more or less decided that we have to be careful or we will break our toys. And fighting plex rats is even less of a challenge than some things we've seen from the minmatar.
So the focus was on pew pew and holding a few systems that we like.

After a while, countless (i think we are up to evati push number 4 or 5) attempts on evati were made by minmatar. These attempts were hilarious and i can't recall evati ever being in real danger. But I shouldn't complain about content on my doorstep.

In the same time flirts with D'n'G started and a bromance developed, a direction was needed to vent all that tension and lust between us.

Conveniently we heard rumors about the nth attempt on evati, this time the attacks wont be coming from high sec (lol) but from todifrauan, a system next door.

Seeing that minmatar didn't really learn anything from the last x attempts, us in need of a wedding ceremony and the slaves in need of a slap on the wrist, it was decided to show minmatar how to take a system. Maybe they'll learn this time?

Well not even two days later we made our bromance with D'n'G official by bashing the hub that was covered in countless minmatar wrecks.

For the last day of the push we deployed tactics stolen from elite high sec pvp groups such as catalyst fleets...with great results. There isn't much more to be said about the fights as most of them were quick and brutal.

Thanks to the few minmatar fleets that showed up from time to time and even bigger thanks to all the neutral gangs that made this not a boring plexing effort.

See you minnies again as soon as there is a system actually worth taking, maybe you learned something by that time.

#YOLOCOLO 2.0 love you D'n'G

TL;DR: Arrangements between neutrals and director spais in min mil accidentally Todifrauan, pls stop plexing my systems deplexing makes my brain go numb
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2015-03-26 22:47:46 UTC
Shiva Makoto wrote:
Seeing that someone necro'd this thread i can give a quick AAR/situation update.

After the warzone was taken and the slaves got shown their place it was more or less decided that we have to be careful or we will break our toys. And fighting plex rats is even less of a challenge than some things we've seen from the minmatar.
So the focus was on pew pew and holding a few systems that we like.

After a while, countless (i think we are up to evati push number 4 or 5) attempts on evati were made by minmatar. These attempts were hilarious and i can't recall evati ever being in real danger. But I shouldn't complain about content on my doorstep.

In the same time flirts with D'n'G started and a bromance developed, a direction was needed to vent all that tension and lust between us.

Conveniently we heard rumors about the nth attempt on evati, this time the attacks wont be coming from high sec (lol) but from todifrauan, a system next door.

Seeing that minmatar didn't really learn anything from the last x attempts, us in need of a wedding ceremony and the slaves in need of a slap on the wrist, it was decided to show minmatar how to take a system. Maybe they'll learn this time?

Well not even two days later we made our bromance with D'n'G official by bashing the hub that was covered in countless minmatar wrecks.

For the last day of the push we deployed tactics stolen from elite high sec pvp groups such as catalyst fleets...with great results. There isn't much more to be said about the fights as most of them were quick and brutal.

Thanks to the few minmatar fleets that showed up from time to time and even bigger thanks to all the neutral gangs that made this not a boring plexing effort.

See you minnies again as soon as there is a system actually worth taking, maybe you learned something by that time.

#YOLOCOLO 2.0 love you D'n'G

TL;DR: Arrangements between neutrals and director spais in min mil accidentally Todifrauan, pls stop plexing my systems deplexing makes my brain go numb


Easier to necro the thread than to start a new one really. Unfortunately you guys did not wait for me like I asked - how rude...

If there have been pushes on Evati that is news to me - are you sure someone was not just looking for a fight?

Anyway, we will see you again soon no doubt. Lamaa and Todi were fun whilst they lasted - don't kid yourself on your doctrines however, we may choose to engage when we are outnumbered 2:1 and the result is normally predictable. We simply know that that's what it will take to get a fight most of the time.
Tristan daCuhna
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#63 - 2015-03-26 22:49:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tristan daCuhna
Shiva Makoto wrote:


#YOLOCOLO 2.0 love you D'n'G




Shiva hello?

This isn't Reddit. I don't know what to do.

HALP


Edit: To the slave. https://zkillboard.com/br/33007/ totes outnumbered 2:1 there bro.
Terribly Misguided
Doomheim
#64 - 2015-03-26 23:29:26 UTC
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:

If there have been pushes on Evati that is news to me - are you sure someone was not just looking for a fight?


I think they are talking about U'K, who did make an active push on more then one occasion.
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2015-03-26 23:37:27 UTC
Tristan daCuhna wrote:
Shiva Makoto wrote:


#YOLOCOLO 2.0 love you D'n'G




Shiva hello?

This isn't Reddit. I don't know what to do.

HALP


Edit: To the slave. https://zkillboard.com/br/33007/ totes outnumbered 2:1 there bro.


I can refresh your memory if you want?

1) The Tuskers were not helping us :). Any engagements you had with them are entirely seperate.

2) I have no idea who relentless destruction are but again they were not with us.

3) Any fights you had with NRG were seperate to your fight with Minnie Militia

4) The kill of Angus' Hurricane was not a fleet battle if I recall - in fact I think it was Tuskars who killed that in an entirely seperate engagement.

5) x2 of the pilots you quoted are sentry guns and I assume you took fire from them if you engaged neutrals on a gate at some point - again not an issue with engaging war targets.

So yes that makes the numbers more like x33 Amarr Militia (minus a few I guess, I don't remember you having a Drake for our fight on the gate also minus any double counted pods) so 26 Amarr versus at best 18 Minnie's (although about x3 were caught warping into gate camps and not warping out etc also minus double counted pods)

So by my approximated count it was 26 vs 15 in your favour when we chose to engage for our fight on the gate. Which yes you did win (gf) but yes you also outnumbered us...as I said almost 2:1.






Shiva Makoto
Blue Canary
Watch This
#66 - 2015-03-26 23:40:12 UTC
An old and wise pilot from LNA or iron oxide once told me: get more friends
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2015-03-26 23:47:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Nameira Vanis-Tor
Terribly Misguided wrote:
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:

If there have been pushes on Evati that is news to me - are you sure someone was not just looking for a fight?


I think they are talking about U'K, who did make an active push on more then one occasion.


Fair enough if they did their own thing. We normally wind up in Evati/Las if we have not found anything on a roam, so we Plex it a little to see if we can provoke a fight :)
Red Khalmer
Minmatar Secret Service
Ushra'Khan
#68 - 2015-03-27 18:28:20 UTC
oh yes, Pyre's push was great on Todifraun, unfortuneatly when I was online, you brought like the height of no fun into the system.

-jump into system
-check Dscan
-see 2 garmurs 2 confessors 1 svipul 2 kestrels 1 atron in small with skirmish boosts
-"Meh"

And that was that. Why engage something to inheriently boring as a kite fleet with shiny toys. When we can have all the fun engaging Conglomerate or DnG in the rest of the warzone instead.

I really wish I could be around to get into some sweet PvP action with you but this time it wasnt the case. Ugh

But good job, hope all parts had some fun fights in the meanwhile while plexing Todifraun.
Milo Caman
Anshar Incorporated
#69 - 2015-03-27 20:54:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Milo Caman
Really? When I was around at least, we flipped the system with kitchen-sink frigates and destroyers (T3 and otherwise), along with the occasional cruiser for large complexes.

We didn't pull anything even vaguely organized composition-wise until the system hit about 90%, where we hopped into catalysts and proceeded to have a great time. Not too sure you can kite easily with those?
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#70 - 2015-03-27 21:21:41 UTC
Also not sure why you're complaining about skirmish boosts when you had at least two link alts of your own in system for most of the evening.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

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Mayrin Hawke
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#71 - 2015-03-27 21:30:21 UTC
if you're afraid of garmurs, just keep in mind that garmurs are afraid of tristans ;D
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#72 - 2015-03-28 00:58:35 UTC
COME ON WARZONE, GET ******* STUCK IN THERE.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#73 - 2015-03-28 05:58:18 UTC
someone took lamaa and we took it back. I missed the ihub bash but dotlan speaks truth.

the Todifraun flip made it into the ticker of the latest scope vid btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFy2KTGYlYI \o/

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Red Khalmer
Minmatar Secret Service
Ushra'Khan
#74 - 2015-03-28 15:41:09 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
someone took lamaa and we took it back. I missed the ihub bash but dotlan speaks truth.

the Todifraun flip made it into the ticker of the latest scope vid btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFy2KTGYlYI \o/


that is really nice of CCP to add into the video, thanks for sharing!
Otsdarva IV
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#75 - 2015-03-28 16:15:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Otsdarva IV
It's hard to enjoy a game where you get one fight a week because turbodunking slaves stops them logging in until they can ship in some more cancer tristans.

Minis please, maybe you should stick to mining for anything isk related :%)

plus if you do it in a venture you don't have to buy out jita of stabs :%)
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2015-03-28 18:23:45 UTC
Otsdarva IV wrote:
It's hard to enjoy a game where you get one fight a week because turbodunking slaves stops them logging in until they can ship in some more cancer tristans.

Minis please, maybe you should stick to mining for anything isk related :%)

plus if you do it in a venture you don't have to buy out jita of stabs :%)


Any time you want a fight come to Lulm, we are normally happy to oblige, if we are not there then we are roaming and someone will poke us - then again we frequently see DnG and Terp out there so you should already know this. DnG don't have a home system in the Warzone last I checked so I would be careful of accusations of worrying about getting fights off us. At least we know where to go to provoke a reaction from Pyre Falcon etc.

Bring empty pods though, Mystical Might is a sneaky smart bomber ;)


Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#77 - 2015-03-28 22:27:00 UTC
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:

Bring empty pods though, Mystical Might is a sneaky smart bomber ;)



Confirming. The only thing I've seen so far in this war zone that instills fear is being in a pricey pod with Mystical or Santos in system.
Dreaded Vengance
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#78 - 2015-03-30 13:02:35 UTC
Until the Minnies can get their TZ coverage back to pre #burnhuola levels I can't see the situation changing much. Amarr shouldn't want to push them out completely because they'll just have the local pirate alliances that aren't already blue to shoot, Minnies aren't in a position to contest Amarr home systems of any note.

FW needs a bit of attention.
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#79 - 2015-03-30 13:51:55 UTC
Dreaded Vengance wrote:
Until the Minnies can get their TZ coverage back to pre #burnhuola levels I can't see the situation changing much. Amarr shouldn't want to push them out completely because they'll just have the local pirate alliances that aren't already blue to shoot, Minnies aren't in a position to contest Amarr home systems of any note.

FW needs a bit of attention.


It's not really a CCP problem this time, Minmatar need more players in particular time zones really. But hey flying against the odds is the Minmatar way! Just look at our ships!

Trust in the Rust o7
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#80 - 2015-03-31 12:20:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Liafcipe9000
Dreaded Vengance wrote:
Until the Minnies can get their TZ coverage back to pre #burnhuola levels I can't see the situation changing much. Amarr shouldn't want to push them out completely because they'll just have the local pirate alliances that aren't already blue to shoot, Minnies aren't in a position to contest Amarr home systems of any note.

FW needs a bit of attention.


Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:
It's not really a CCP problem this time, Minmatar need more players in particular time zones really. But hey flying against the odds is the Minmatar way! Just look at our ships!

Trust in the Rust o7


agreed, need to recruit people into FW corps from outside.