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Name change service "sooner rather than later"

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#41 - 2015-03-27 14:54:27 UTC
Moshi wrote:
kes88 wrote:
Surely the thing that's more detrimental to maintaining or losing a reputation is character selling, not name changing?


Yes. It's funny how allowing a name change with an easy way to see the previous name of a character being played by the same person somehow trashes the concept of personal reputation and allows people to escape consequences, but the selling of a character to be played by a completely different person somehow doesn't. It's almost as if people don't bring this up because they are happy to make billions of ISK selling characters.


As one of those character traders, I'd love to have a name change mechanic. You have no idea how many good characters I pass over because they have names like kes88 (no offense meant).

If I thought that this change would actually happen, I'd be in there buying up all those characters on the cheap right now. Then rename them later and hopefully turn a decent profit. It would depend on the cost of the name change, of course.

Mr Epeen Cool
Aphsala
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2015-03-27 14:57:21 UTC
Very cool with this idea, aslong as previous is available like corp history
Dominique Vasilkovsky
#43 - 2015-03-27 14:59:57 UTC
It will be fun once people start to change names every 24h between a few characters, good luck trying to figure out who is who after a few rotations or who was who at which scam.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#44 - 2015-03-27 16:19:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Pok Nibin
Lan Wang wrote:
id like a name change :(
Why? You gonna change it to Long Dong?

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
kes88
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2015-03-27 16:21:26 UTC
Pok Nibin wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
id like a name change :(
Why? You gonna change it to Long Dong?


Only if you changed it to Long Dong Silver.Big smile
kes88
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2015-03-27 16:22:16 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Moshi wrote:
kes88 wrote:
Surely the thing that's more detrimental to maintaining or losing a reputation is character selling, not name changing?


Yes. It's funny how allowing a name change with an easy way to see the previous name of a character being played by the same person somehow trashes the concept of personal reputation and allows people to escape consequences, but the selling of a character to be played by a completely different person somehow doesn't. It's almost as if people don't bring this up because they are happy to make billions of ISK selling characters.


As one of those character traders, I'd love to have a name change mechanic. You have no idea how many good characters I pass over because they have names like kes88 (no offense meant).

If I thought that this change would actually happen, I'd be in there buying up all those characters on the cheap right now. Then rename them later and hopefully turn a decent profit. It would depend on the cost of the name change, of course.

Mr Epeen Cool


None taken and completely agree. Big smile
Serene Repose
#47 - 2015-03-27 16:22:22 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Moshi wrote:
kes88 wrote:
Surely the thing that's more detrimental to maintaining or losing a reputation is character selling, not name changing?


Yes. It's funny how allowing a name change with an easy way to see the previous name of a character being played by the same person somehow trashes the concept of personal reputation and allows people to escape consequences, but the selling of a character to be played by a completely different person somehow doesn't. It's almost as if people don't bring this up because they are happy to make billions of ISK selling characters.


As one of those character traders, I'd love to have a name change mechanic. You have no idea how many good characters I pass over because they have names like kes88 (no offense meant).

If I thought that this change would actually happen, I'd be in there buying up all those characters on the cheap right now. Then rename them later and hopefully turn a decent profit. It would depend on the cost of the name change, of course.

Mr Epeen Cool
See? You say that, then expect CCP to just hand over the tools to you?? ROFL

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#48 - 2015-03-27 16:48:57 UTC  |  Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo
No to name changes. The scenarios Sibyyl listed are not common. You'd have to go through hundreds if not thousands of characters to find one that applies.

Local right now serves as an intel tool. As long as that remains characters should stay tied to their identities. I do not want to be clicking through 30 names in local when I'm in a pod because Mystical Might keeps changing his name every week.

You would need a label for every pilot of relevance to you. Enemy FCs, pod smartbombers, cynos, supercap pilots, etc. Then you'd need to look through each of those labels constantly to ensure you're up to date on their new name.

It's too much. All because someone was daft enough to name their character something like McChicken Combo HalfMayo. Sorry, but deal with it.

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Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
#49 - 2015-03-27 17:11:20 UTC
+1

I for one would welcome such a change. Make it cost a PLEX or two. I can't really say I'm super happy with a name I made up years ago.

A compromise. Let a player change his/her name only once, and make that option 1+ year after character birth.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#50 - 2015-03-27 17:19:53 UTC
Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:
It will be fun once people start to change names every 24h between a few characters, good luck trying to figure out who is who after a few rotations or who was who at which scam.


That's a little extreme.

I imagine if CCP does this, it would be as a courtesy to those that facerolled their name as a trial and decided to stick around. Meaning it would be a one time per character thing.

But just for fun, let's give your scenario a look.

At a minimum, it would be one PLEX per change. Do you really think think some guy is going to drop 21 PLEX per week (A few [3] characters x 1 PLEX per day) for whatever it is you think he'd be doing? Seems pretty unlikely to me.

Mr Epeen Cool
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#51 - 2015-03-27 17:29:18 UTC
Yeah, but. If one is a professional spy for a wealthy interest. One mission is complete, can we scrub the spy to send him into another one to alleviate fear of cross detection? That might be worth a PLEX every two or three months.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Moshi
Doomheim
#52 - 2015-03-27 17:32:26 UTC
I suspect CCP would put restrictions on the service to prevent frequent name changes, such as once per character or once per year etc.
Noriko Mai
#53 - 2015-03-27 17:36:09 UTC
CCP Logibro wrote:
At this stage, there are no details, and implementing this feature isn't even a sure thing yet. But as CCP Terminus said, it's definitely something we've talked about internally (and even mentioned before this externally).

We'll let you know more in the future if we move forward with it.

You talked about it? OMG OMG OMFG. It's happening. Comming tommorow. OMG!!11!1!1!1

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#54 - 2015-03-27 17:52:47 UTC
CCP Logibro wrote:
At this stage, there are no details, and implementing this feature isn't even a sure thing yet. But as CCP Terminus said, it's definitely something we've talked about internally (and even mentioned before this externally).

We'll let you know more in the future if we move forward with it.


Id pay for that... i created my name before all the fancy options and last names and what not...

Been around since the beginning.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#55 - 2015-03-27 17:58:28 UTC
It's been talked over with the CSM too Smile

Reactions were, umm, mixed.

Details in the CSM summer summit minutes.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2015-03-27 18:01:27 UTC
CCP Logibro wrote:
At this stage, there are no details, and implementing this feature isn't even a sure thing yet. But as CCP Terminus said, it's definitely something we've talked about internally (and even mentioned before this externally).

We'll let you know more in the future if we move forward with it.

the problem i will keep bringing up, people already complain about sorting through Corp histories to be a pain for people who swap around alot, and trying to figure out who their loyalties lied with during what event.

It would SUCK to be sorting through 3-4 people who were all at one point amed "Luke Skywalker" or something stupid around the same time period, and just trying to figure out who was who, let alone who they were allied with, duing any given time.

All it does is drastically increase confusion and levels of Pain In The Ass identifying possible recruits will be, and the only benefit is so trolls and people who had the mindset of a 12 year old at character creation get to completely ignore their choices.
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2015-03-27 18:01:54 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
CCP Logibro wrote:
At this stage, there are no details, and implementing this feature isn't even a sure thing yet. But as CCP Terminus said, it's definitely something we've talked about internally (and even mentioned before this externally).

We'll let you know more in the future if we move forward with it.


Why is this even being considered?


Because some people end up with ridiculous names like Gallente Citizen 9484537956959 because someone took offense when they first named themselves Gareth Gobblecoque
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#58 - 2015-03-27 18:06:15 UTC
It would be the greatest boon to corp thieves ever. Name change could only come after the mechanics have changed to make every player permanently immune to any breakdown of trust issues.

Otherwise it becomes ass-hattery online and not even about space pixels.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2015-03-27 18:17:30 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
It would be the greatest boon to corp thieves ever. Name change could only come after the mechanics have changed to make every player permanently immune to any breakdown of trust issues.

Otherwise it becomes ass-hattery online and not even about space pixels.


You could just make it so that previous names show up when you do a 'scan' on someone. Every other game I can think of that has name changes does it like that.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#60 - 2015-03-27 18:19:12 UTC
Kiandoshia wrote:

Gareth Gobblecoque


*fake High Society accent*

My dear friend that name sounds familiar, would Gareth be one of the South Hampton Gobblecoques, or one of those dreadful North Hampton Gobblecoques?

*/fake High Society accent*