EVE General Discussion

Like the charming OP-er said, everything you do to advance in a game is exploiting a feature. The game designers may not call it that, but that's what they're doing, setting up features, mechanics and parameters for us to exploit with varying degrees of success. Bannable Offense, on the other hand...this is where intelligent discussion falls to the wayside.

It's an unfortunate choice of words using "exploit" to label a sin. We didn't choose it, but someone did. *looks over at the devs* Slotting guns, loading them, targeting something and hitting the fire button is exploiting a feature in the game to gain an advantage you previously didn't have. It's how it's done.

So is asking the dealer to hit you when he's just dealt you an ace. You're trying to exploit the values of a deck (in casinos three decks) of cards to hit something close to 21. They expect it. Devs expect you to try to exploit a system they built. They even try to make it difficult to exploit. If you didn't TRY to exploit it, they'd have to critique their work - go back to the drawing board.

You have to remember Serene Repose's favorite thing to do is monkey with words to achieve a [email protected]$$ed result. Serene exploits the language and people's habits in using it for her own personal amusement, and sometimes with some pretty funny results. However, she also usually has a point.

This point? Maybe it's time the upgrade came to iron out these decade old wrinkles. The tech has seriously jumped past EVE and maybe it's getting near the time to make that investment. How many of us would donate significant real money to help finance an upgrade of the tech platform the game is built around? I'd drop $500 on it...maybe more over time. You?

Exploit stands for bug exploits, whenever the talk is about banable offenses.

Exploit means whatever game management wants it to mean. "Bug" and "glitch" are words adolescents use among themselves to sound knowledgeable and cool. When you're trying to troubleshoot technology, your language requires precision. "Bannable" for instance.

Yeah. CPP says anything that's an unintended consequence that they don't want to fix is not an exploit.

On Grid Fu, create a grid line near a customs office in a wh. Anchor a mobile depot a few k from the gridline. In short order a resident wh'lr will discover the depot and attempt to put it into reinforced, bomb the person through the grid line, you can position your bombers so that the bombs cross the line a few seconds before they explode :) No escape.

Can also do the same with a bubble in the middle of nowhere. They'll scan it down and try to blow it up and you can bomb across the line when they do.

It circumvents the 10 second delay that a person is supposed to get before bombs explode.

Since Kaarous position is nothing is wrong it is obviously an exploit. Just cant be fixed yet due to old code.

If you want to remove grid fu, you have to come up with an alternative.

Realize that:
Having everyone in system on the same grid would cause to servers to explode from the load. Thus we need small grids.
Having fixed grids would mean people popping over grid lines all the time, which would result in a very weird combat experience but can just as easily be "exploited" by someone who understands it.

The logical solution seems to be to dynamically enlarge grids when needed, hence grid fu.

If you want to claim that deliberately exploiting grid mechanics should be claimed to be an exploit, you have to come up with a way to detect it. However realize that grids change sizes all the time, almost every player action changes the grid. Mind boggling grid fu can easily happen by accident (it's happened to me a couple of times making perches.) you don't want to be labeling half the playerbase as exploiters.

Lastly, you're not being duped, you're not at a disadvantage. There is no reason you can't use grid fu as well, it's a level playing field.