Crime & Punishment

But fozzie talked about it in the interview :(

My interpretation is that players naturally predisposed to engaging in risky behaviour and accepting of losses are more likely to stick around. Those same players are also more likely to get ganked while they are noobs.

Personally, I think wardecs that target noobs in noob corps isn't good for the game. It channels people into the safety umbrella of larger entities and has players who are comfortable playing solo drop into npc corps or roll their own 1 man corp. Nothing wrong with big alliances and 1 man corps in isolation, but if you are interested in promoting chaos and fluidity in the game there needs to be some room and encouragement for small, nascent corps to develop.

ive been around about 10 years now, mostly as an industrialist and pve pilot, aside from my few times of war and going on killing sprees against gankers. I enjoy the pve and other activities, I have gotten more fun out of killing gankers then killing innocents or others I have no reason killing, I even have a special ship I made and named for ganking gankers. I just choose to do industry to contribute to society, and I do pve to run my 1 account and assist others.

Ive seen people drop off because they get ganked or take a jump into low sec and instantly die before they can experience anything past death.

The idea of playing this game in a non-pvp fashion is learned. We all intend to slaughter our adversaries when we start.

No wonder getting exposed to pvp early retains people.

I've been playing on and off since '09. I wanted to take a moment to reflect on what I see as an erosion taking place in the game.

I did loads of PVE my first year or two. I mined in everything but a mining ship, ran missions up to level 4, lived in a WH, mastered scanning back when it was confusing(did all the exploration sites). I tried every bit of PVE content this game offered.

The whole while, I was in corporations dodging war declarations and trying to keep corps together. Every time I mined, flippers posed a risk. Every time I undocked, someone was baiting. If I smacked in local, I increased the chances of getting a war dec.

Even doing PVE, I could see the people doing interesting things. There was risk everywhere and it felt real.

At about two years, I was sick of shooting red crosses. I was still doing some exploration, but mostly just for cash. Even the social element of the game seemed boring to me because it revolved around the same dull activities. (Missions are like playing checkers against an opponent who makes the exact same moves each time.)

That is when I decided to try to kill some of the evil can flippers I had hated all that time. And I lost ships. And I had fun.

I had sweaty palms, a high heart rate, and no idea what I was doing. That was 500 kills ago now, but I still feel it every time I fight. I think the pvp aspect of this game is the best I have encountered.

4 years later, I still want to experience that high.

My first war dec was against a mining corp. We killed loads of them. Then they hired some tiny merc corp to attack us. But before the merc could dec us, we started giving the miners some pointers and made friends. Then the miners declared war on the mercs they had paid to attack us in order to help us out. I have no idea what the mercs thought. It was absolute numbnuttery, but I loved it.


My problem is this. I think PVE content in this game has a short life span. I can hardly think of a PVE based game that anyone plays for more than 2 years. However, when I look at empire space now that is the only content that is growing. Everything else is nearly gone.

The changes to crime watch have nearly eliminated pvp in the section of space where the vast majority of the players live. Nobody is facing threat and nobody is pvping. I think this is crazy. It's not Eve.

It's extremely hard to find a pick-up fight now. There are no war fleets in local., no funny smack talk, no canners, no baiters, and I'm seeing carebear corps who haven't had war secs.

I used to fly around in a shield rep osprey to get fights. I would find a fight and rep both sides while smacking in local about peace and brotherhood. Once one side would shoot, I'd change into something else and get a kill. I always wanted to kill both sides, but never pulled it off.

The only pvp I see left in high sec is suicide ganks which isn't worth my $15 a month.

My question is this:
1) as you force the high sec portion of eve (the majority)down the road of PVE... How long do you expect to keep these players? How long can someone legitimately play PVE in this game? Are these all 2 year players?

I think you are trading guys like me who would still be playing 6 years later for guys who want a PVE experience and are just looking to amass some isk and ships before the move on to another game.

What game will I be playing by the time you bring pvp back? I've been looking desperately to replace Eve for a while. The replacement isn't here yet, but it's coming.

Please give back the old crime watch mechanics and cheap war decs.

I recall that Orphanage war deced 0.0 corps and ganked idiots. I quite jelly about this kind of fun filled action because null is boring blobland where such fun is impossible.

My corp stayed out of high sec when Orphanage war deced us because it was scary. You fought. We may as well have been NPCs. That is the same reason we never fight anyone else. I will freely admit that hisec pvpers are better PvPers than I am.

Some more bs to say people like to win but malhraz should win more.