Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Few ideas:


Could the vulnerability time effect structures usefulness. Lets say with 4h window you would get 52% base yield for reprocessing and with 24h window you would get 60%. This way with more risk, wou would get more isk


Could the entosis link give you hacking like interface. Failing the hack would give 5-10min invulnerability and attacker could after the small time continue where he/she left of. This would give defender more time if the attacker isn't too good. With skills/activity/money structure owner could update the strength of the structures defences and attacker could get better with entosis link skill to be better at attacking.

This is almost exactly what I suggested. So it gets an upvote from me.

This touches on the most glaring omission of the proposed sov system - an almost complete omission of options for the sovholder to decide how they want to develop their space. We have a very one dimensional system at present where grinding your indices provides fixed specific bonuses, what would be much preferable is a system where using space would give some form of 'sov points' (insert catchier name as required) which could be spent as the occupier chooses on unlocking the options they want.

I dare you to afflict all of eve with timezone windows and entosis capture mechanics.

EVE doesn't actually encourage players to show up. In fact, EVE makes things much more difficult then it should be. Why? Because of annoying 24-hour based math.

Timers require the player to take the current EVE time (17:54) and then add the timer (1 day 15 hours 34 minutes) to derive the vulnerability window.

So 1 OCT 17:54 becomes something like 3 OCT 09:28.


Wouldn't it just be easier, and more straightforward if the structure simply said: vulnerable Sunday 3 OCT 09:28 - and then under that, showed the decreasing timer?


Along the same lines, updating the in-game calendar and email to accept standardized EVE time/date codes and adding local timezone conversion would be awesome. So using the above timer example, I could send a memo or add a calendar event saying "POCO Defense Sunday 3 OCT 09:28" and everyone would get that exact eve time plus whatever their local equivalent is.

Knowing the local equivalent immediately allows me to reschedule my day or opt-out as necessary.

Why not combine the two mechanics of SOV? Leave SBU's in the game and just retool them to work faster. Like 4 hours. These can negate the prime time window for the next 48 hours and force alliances to patrol their borders more often than they do now. I am always in favor of Beach Heads in a strategy game like EVE. The key is the anchor time of these modules, they should be around 60 mins and requires an entosis link to setup. Also make them to where they can only be carried in Supers. This also brings the capitals into the fray as if you wish to negate the advantages of the new system you will have to plan and defend a strike. Once anchored they can start affecting structures in the systems they are deployed to. The new system will favor the big coalitions for the prime, choice USDA grade A systems and make small weak alliances squabble for the crap that is left out. CFC will most defiantly try to break any system in protest.

Basically have SBU's work like a planted flag that works against the prime time window. Attacker A drops an SBU at any time of the day. Defender A has to kill that SBU in their prime time. If the defender fails to kill the SBU in that time slot a 48 hour window starts that their space is now vulnerable for and must be defended against attacks from anyone. Still the SBU's should be dropped by Supers and should have reasonable HP sort of like a medium tower. If you can establish a beach head with your Capitals then the 100% resist tanks of the new system have a counter. And yes 100% resist tanks mean invulnerable structures for a majority of the day. Eve has always been a thief in the night kind of game and some element of this should remain in my honest opinion.

TLDR:

* Don't get rid of SBU's
* Make SBU's deployable by SUPERS only
* SBU's come online with Entosis link
* SBU become planted flags into systems wanting to be contested by groups wanting to take space in other TZ's
* Makes a reason to field Supers and Capitals into a SOV mechanic without shooting Structures.
* Requires Planning and Strategy to properly execute
* Defenders have opportunity to negate its effects by patrolling their Borders
* No notification should be given, if you don't scout it, you miss it.
* Remove the gate requirements for SBU's. One per system.
Even if it takes less time to run the Entosis link you would have to be up during the Vulnerable time slot to contest SOV. So highly localized groups such as AUS tz guys will have a hard time breaking into Null Sec when the meaningful systems are all claimed.

I still don't really understand why it must be such a fixed system.

How about a system where a structure must be taken step by step. Let's say it has X defense nodes that protect the structures mainframe or something (A module that can be fitted on the structure and provide Y nodes per module fitted). And the owner can have defense like turrets fitted in the other slots.

The attacker can then hack them, which reinforces them. Reinforce time is set by the owner as he likes (a few hours up to one or two days, I don't know). Reinforce timers may even be different per node so the defender can set them in a way that some will exit reinforce in his TZ. After this reinforce the defense node is neutral and doesn't protect the mainframe anymore. If you hack a neutral node it becomes yours, the defender has to hack it and reinforce it (with your timer and "non-functional" because it has no mainframe belonging to it). This will prevent the defender of quickly hacking one node "back" to prevent mainframe hacking.

If all nodes are down, you can hack the mainframe to reinforce it. After reinforce it becomes a neutral free port. By hacking the now neutral mainframe you can take control over the main structure. Every hacking attempt must properly notify the owner.

Refitting of the structure (except reloading defense turrets) is only possible while all nodes are fully functional so the defender can't just refit with more nodes or remove nodes or something to play the system.

Scenarios
A: The defender doesn't care. Structure is taken over step by step.

B: The defender hacks the nodes back as soon as they leave reinforce mode and become neutral. Back and forth until someone get's the upper hand.

C: Attacker shows up with a huge amount of people to hack everything. If the defender can't show up to his own timers the structure will enter free port mode and can then be taken over by anyone.
C-A: If the attacker reinforces neutral nodes he can prevent that some random dudes take over the mainframe.

D: Defender shows up to defend his stuff. Attacker shows up too. They fight it out.


Another idea could be to not rely on pure defense nodes but make the defense turrets the nodes that must be taken over in a way described above.

Sounds like it would shake up sov then

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Fozzie: the only practical solution i can see to this terrible idea for sov that doesn't leave the AUTZ sitting around uselessly with a digit stuck up their bum is to allow the horrible prime time mechanic to be set at a constellation or system level. That way an alliance can define a system or group of systems or constellations for us to fight over/defend and so on. Otherwise, its back to the standard CCP thing of just running our playtime because there are less of us on.

That could not be further from the truth. CCP have been listening to the players more now than ever. And making decisions based on our feedback and ideas. Why would you say such a thing that is an obvious lie?