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[Scylla] Medium Railguns

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Aeryn Maricadie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#121 - 2015-03-23 02:41:56 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Swanky nutjob wrote:
Did you factor in rails are one of the few systems which can hit out to ranges that Ishtars orbit at?


rate of fire wont change that. Ishtars are also getting nerfed too.Blink

But since Ishtars are just getting a damage nerf too that won't really change the dynamic. It will still be Ishtars and Tengus pounding away at each other. The lower dps might allow other doctrines more viability, but I think someone just needs to come up with a Rooks&Kings style counter. Something wacky and ingenious like the pipebomb fleet.
kraken11 jensen
ROOKS AND KRAKENS
#122 - 2015-03-26 15:00:54 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:


The problem are NOT the hull. If you put medium rails on a STABBER, it still does more damage than an ARTI STABBER.


Are there still minmatar ships in this game?

And for the rails vs artys, this is only for medium.



Yes, only mediums have a HUGE unbalance. The large ones have a smaller unbalance, still present, but bearable because alpha is way more important on the large gun scale.


2 dps more,

And Alpha is important on pretty much all tiers.

An artillery stabber have more than 2 times as much alpha as an stabber with rails.

It's an additional reason why high sec griefer corps/alliances use loki.. (the fast locking is 1 thing, but the alpha is an additional reason.


Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#123 - 2015-03-27 09:43:20 UTC
kraken11 jensen wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:


The problem are NOT the hull. If you put medium rails on a STABBER, it still does more damage than an ARTI STABBER.


Are there still minmatar ships in this game?

And for the rails vs artys, this is only for medium.



Yes, only mediums have a HUGE unbalance. The large ones have a smaller unbalance, still present, but bearable because alpha is way more important on the large gun scale.


2 dps more,

And Alpha is important on pretty much all tiers.

An artillery stabber have more than 2 times as much alpha as an stabber with rails.

It's an additional reason why high sec griefer corps/alliances use loki.. (the fast locking is 1 thing, but the alpha is an additional reason.





Wayt o go on irrelevant things. Yes of course arti will have more alpha than rails. But is is nto strange that rails have more dps on a stabber.. a ship that has PROJECTILE BONUSES????? Why not make AC do more damage on a mega then neutrons then?

Alpha is NOT equally important on all scales.

It is far more important on the battleship scale because you can reliably get to the point where you can destroy any subacpital in game and battleships do not move while doing that. Smaller weapons do not scale so fast on their alpha and they tend to need to move otherwise even non arti guns will start blapping them . When you are moving.. arties become bad very fast.


There is a reason why there are no MEDIUM arties doctrines, but there are large arties ones. Because alpha is only serioyusly relevant on the large ships. The smaller you go, the more DPS and range becomes the only important factors.

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#124 - 2015-03-29 11:20:44 UTC
when will autocannons get more falloff?

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