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Wrong, actually. A better tl;dr would be: People want CCP to stop killing emergent gameplay simply because a select few individuals cried about it long enough. Especially since this program does not violate any part of 6A2 and input broadcasting is nowhere to be found in the EULA. CCP might as well remove fleets and declare that you can't fly with your friends.

As for the "99%" comment, you must've missed when CCP broke down the demographics of EVE, which is where the famous "leveling my raven" joke came from. I'm not a station trader. I don't move 1T isk / month through orders. If I wanted to play "Market PVP Online" I'd play the stock market. Other people live in a WH 24/7 and never see the light of day, so to speak. Attempting to force us to do a certain thing in-game has always lead to disaster. We just want to play the game the way we want to.

CCP killed the last real "watchdog" website/blog (kugu) after they ragebanned them for exposing the T20 scandal.

I got to thinking about this a bit more and I think I know what is going on here.

CCP is hostile to people who prefer solo game play. They only want non solo players in Eve. Therefore they wish to take away the tools that solo players have from being on equal footing with groups.

Well played CCP. Well played.

But that's the point I raised in the round table. VFX/Round robin is manual, so it will show just as many slip ups as someone using no tools. All it does is group your binds and screens into one area, it doesn't automate anything, so it doesn't eliminate human error. If they study someone and find them to be too efficient, they have absolutely no way of knowing if that person is simply tiling their screens over 3 monitors or using VFX to chop up their clients. They are guessing.

That's an absolutely ludicrous way to go about banning people from a game, and quite honestly there's no gain from doing it. Since all this has started, the game hasn't improved. We're not logging in going "wow, I'm so glad multiplexing is gone, my gameplay is just so much better!". Basically nothing changed. Ice is still owned by multiboxers, single man incursion and bombing fleets still exist, and traders still dominate ISK making more than any other multiboxer can ever dream of. So other than reducing subs from the giants and throwing all multiboxers at risk, manual or not, this whole thing has been a pointless endeavour.

How can one be a watchdog when CCP can do no wrong? You even had the same opinion, when someone says they did nothing and didn't use tools when they got banned by CCP, they were lying. That's what you said, that's what CCP said. As far as CCP are concerned they get nearly no false positives, because out of everyone they ban very few people are able to prove they did nothing wrong, primarily because they only have their word. If CCP decide to ban someone then in the eyes of the community they were using tools, regardless of what the actual truth is. Nothing anyone posts on a blog will change that.

The only "minority" crying for about 200 pages, are you few guys who desperately search for workarounds to use your tools.
You want CCP to justify their bans? They don't have to.
You want to dictate CCP how they have to work? Good luck.
You say, you pay for it? No one soerce you to do. Just leave the game.

Maybe it is not obvious to you few guys, but CCP can ban whoever they want without a reason.
And using tools like you do is a good reason. You didn't get banned yet? Lucky guys. But this doesn't mean you're right and CCP wrong.

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Sure people can continue to multibox 10+ accounts, and they will.

CCP really doesn't mind if you multibox with a few accounts, so they really can't ban the 10+ account people and leave alone the few account people as that would look bad. Nor would they want to, as the people with just a couple accounts are not on a level playing field with large groups, so there isn't a problem.

But what they can do, and have done, is take away the tools that a player with 10+ accounts have to level the playing field against larger groups. They don't want the solo players to be effective against the group players, so they have removed a tool that allowed the solo player to be effective against the group players. CCP doesn't mind you being a solo player as long as you can't defend yourself against larger groups.

Anyway, just a theory. I use to have 12 accounts and peacefully mined ice in Providence. With ISBoxer I was able to defend myself against larger hostile groups. Now I no longer have the tools to do that. As a solo player that limits my options, hence the whole CCP doesn't want you to be a solo player theory. CCP is trying to force solo players to abandon their play style or be demoted into irrelevance.

It's CCPs game, they can do what they want. But at least now I have a good idea the "why" behind the madness :-)

Hell, even a smaller group is able to take out a boxer. EWAR is there for a reason. There's a video out there of a multiboxer using Harbingers who was destroyed by a smaller group because of EWAR and fitting.

Exactly my point. CCP doesn't want solo players to have tools to compete with groups. If you don't want to join a group then you just have to live with the fact that CCP sees you as a second class citizen of the game.

But then their method of banning doesn't prevent the use of tools, and puts manual multiboxers at risk too. If you have 3 monitors and 12 accounts tiled, you will be able to react as fast as someone using VideoFX and efficiently using that setup will likely result in a ban a few months down the line. At the same time, someone using VFX/round robin but not being overly efficient is likely to survive a lot longer. They have no method of detecting how you are playing, they've made that clear. They are analysing your gameplay data, and if you play substantially more efficiently than the average player, you're assumed to be using tools.

In the meantime, players like myself get to continue happily using trading tools which are fully within the EULA to make orders of magnitude more than any multiboxer gets for their effort and with considerably less accounts. Quite honestly they've got their priorities twisted and are kicking some of the most dedicated players who have invested thousands into the game in the nuts to appease people who whine that "their" ice is being taken, which amusingly still happens.