EVE General Discussion

I know this topic has been discussed many times over, but the fact that CCP continues to “Balance” everything but cloaky camping makes me wonder if their whole point is really to kill off industry from eve completely. I know everyone is going to grief the hell out of this post and say I’m just a crying care bear but let’s look at what CCP has REALY done.

Ore Sites used to have to be scanned. PVPers who hunted the miners said it took too much time to scan them down so CCP removed that. When the pvpers still weren’t quick enough to catch the miners CCP made the exhumers’ and mining barges slower to warp. When Miners countered with bubbles between the belts and the gates to protect themselves CCP made a class of ship that was immune.

I ask CCP one simple question, WHAT out of any of that helped the miners? CCP has systematically taken away every strategy to protect themselves that miners have, and it is never enough, and yet the RULES allow for a person who contributes nothing but their plex to CCP to totally disrupt a system with total impunity.

If CCP really wants to Balance the game STOP MAKING EVERY BALANCE TO THE PVPers ADVANTAGE. You have to Balance the game, not just make it easier for people to buy a plex and Kill off a system. Between the cloaky t3 cruisers, interceptors and the cloaky campers, it is a wonder industry is still done in eve at all. If CCP keeps going down the road they are currently on, with some 30 day old toon being able to bring Billions of isk worth of assets to a halt, they might as well just take industry out of the game in one shot.

As for those that are going to cry about another cloaky camper thread, you can thank the moderators for that. I looked up many threads about cloaky camping and they were all locked.

some may see that this is a copy of another post I made. I don't feel this is ranting if I am asking for open discussion on the issues. If the moderators and CCP would openly discuss the above concerns instead of just locking threads, some of us might see something other than CCP killing industry.

mining isn't industry

There is literally a ISD endorsed thread dedicated to AFK camping related discussion in F&I.

Your search fu is terrible.

Industry Starts with the mining of ore. Most things require minerals or PI to build.

There is more to this thread than AFK camping

It's the same thread as before, just with a different title and an extra paragraph at the end.

Yes there are other things in your rant as there were before, but it remains a complaint about cloaky camping, right from the first sentence.

Get rid of that first paragraph and don't attack the rest of the community right from the start and the response to the thread might be different. So far it seems to be going the same way the other one did, purely because your post set the tone for the responses.

You could have started it more positively along the lines of:

"I'd like to have a discussion about the difficulties of nullsec industry, which CCP have acknowledged is not in a strong enough place at the moment, and what can be done about it...."

But instead of a positive tone to the thread, it begins from a totally negative perspective, not only about cloaky camping, but about the people who you are trying to engage in a conversation.

Don't be surprised by the responses.

Or a warp strength bonus...

At its heart the whole point of this post is that CCP has made many changes over the past year or 2 that are mostly aimed at madding hunting the miners easier while killing everything the miners and industry guys do to counter these changes. If CCP were actualy tring to balance things they would be evening things out across the board. but what I have been seeing it nothing more than CCP tipping the scales in the PVPers advantage.

So your saying that none of the fourm members are capable of reading past the first sentence of a post?

This. And also OP, seeing you're a renter, you probably just got killed even though you have 209213907 gazillion bubbles on gates and warpins and now you're coming here to share your anger with the forums, this is not how it works.