EVE General Discussion

Is this an exploit?
No, not really.

Should the capability for a player (or group of players) to manipulate the boundaries of the grid within the game mechanics due simply to understanding obscure properties of the game engine that are not easily discovered and used by the player base as a whole (and grants an distinct advantage) be completely reworked?
Yeah, it really should be.

This is a great example of one of those things that CCP is firmly trying to eradicate.

Players should succeed through superior use of known mechanics, not though superior knowledge of game related trivia and technical limitations.

While the fact that Grid Fu is an unintended possibility for players to take advantage of is not in itself reason to eliminate it (unexpected game play is great)... but it's arcane nature, power to grant a huge advantage, and obvious immersion destroying nature make it a prime candidate for a rewrite.

we unintentionally gridfued the other night while dropping a can at a "wrong" spot. resulting in the loss of the entire fleet because we warped on our ping at 10 but we were like maybe a couple k off the other grid. unfortunately the people in the other grid could see us and we got locked and killed by stuff we could neither see nor lock on our grid.

so basically you can set the grid up so that one side can see the other but the other side is not aware that a whole fleet is on top of them. also funny is the doctor bubbled us and we couldn't warp even tough the bubble was not visible on our grid.

if you think this is smart use of game mechanic then im not really sure whats wrong with you:) this awfully looks like a horrible exploit. at least ccp reimbursed the whole fleet. but this tactic can easily be abused and people probably do it on a daily basis.

so **** gridfu and make it a bannable offense

You mean.. like Hyperdunking? CCP is not firmly patterned to do anything.




Players should succeed through research, risk, and intelligence. Grid fu fits perfectly within the EVE sphere.

I thought I was just poking fun.

And then we conceived the second one.

I like to imagine EvE arguments about "gameplay mechanics" in terms of how stupid they would sound in other games.

Let's say you have a large group of people playing/observing a game of Monopoly....it's usually very long, very boring and very full of people getting angry. The game eventually ends many days later with many ruined friendships and at worst somebody steals money during a bio break.

But have a large group of EvE players playing/observing Monopoly and suddenly things go full ******. One of the players realizes that the board is quite small and he can punch the other players in the face for an advantage. If that player happens to be from the blue doughnut everybody jumps in to declare that it's legitimate because if the game designers didn't want people to punch others in the face they'd have made the board larger because it's a gameplay mechanic while all of the normal people in the world wonder WTF is wrong with EvE players.

Saving that one for truth..... ROFL

I WANT TO GIVE YOU THOUSAND LIKES BUT ITS NOT WORKING!!!

Oh, so you can manipulate the grid. Oh, so you had a bad experience with it. Oh, so it's not fair.
HTFU and go gank somebody. You'll feel better for it.

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Not empty quoting. Really.

Mr Epeen

How in the world did you convince yourself that this is true?

I'm not trying to argue this IS an exploit, because it's up to CCP to decide what is or isn't. But it's plain as day that manipulating grids (or the fact that grids even exist at all) is because of technical limitations, not because someone at CCP thought "hey, let's make these esoteric areas of space render in goofy ways and let the players with the most dedication take advantage of this for some tactical upper hand."

Oh I'm sorry, did you want to say anything before my Brutor smashing club reaches your head ?