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afk cloaky camping

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Bowbndr
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2015-03-26 08:13:22 UTC
I know this topic has been discussed many times over, but the fact that CCP continues to “Balance” everything but cloaky camping makes me wonder if their whole point is really to kill off industry from eve completely. I know everyone is going to grief the hell out of this post and say I’m just a crying care bear but let’s look at what CCP has REALY done.

Ore Sites used to have to be scanned. PVPers who hunted the miners said it took too much time to scan them down so CCP removed that. When the pvpers still weren’t quick enough to catch the miners CCP made the exhumers’ and mining barges slower to warp. When Miners countered with bubbles between the belts and the gates to protect themselves CCP made a class of ship that was immune.

I ask CCP one simple question, WHAT out of any of that helped the miners? CCP has systematically taken away every strategy to protect themselves that miners have, and it is never enough, and yet the RULES allow for a person who contributes nothing but their plex to CCP to totally disrupt a system with total impunity.

If CCP really wants to Balance the game STOP MAKING EVERY BALANCE TO THE PVPers ADVANTAGE. You have to Balance the game, not just make it easier for people to buy a plex and Kill off a system. Between the cloaky t3 cruisers, interceptors and the cloaky campers, it is a wonder industry is still done in eve at all. If CCP keeps going down the road they are currently on, with some 30 day old toon being able to bring Billions of isk worth of assets to a halt, they might as well just take industry out of the game in one shot.

As for those that are going to cry about another cloaky camper thread, you can thank the moderators for that. I looked up many threads about cloaky camping and they were all locked.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#2 - 2015-03-26 08:16:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Pak Narhoo
I must be getting old, I could have sworn we already had 666666666.66 threads about this and one currently open.
Bowbndr
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2015-03-26 08:17:30 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
I must be getting old, I could have sworn we already had 666666666.66 threads about this and one currently open.




and you apparently cant read either
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#4 - 2015-03-26 08:18:18 UTC
Bowbndr wrote:
As for those that are going to cry about another cloaky camper thread, you can thank the moderators for that. I looked up many threads about cloaky camping and they were all locked.

There's an 83 page thread here that is not locked:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=397030&find=unread
bigman111222
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#5 - 2015-03-26 08:18:32 UTC
Either guessing you haven't read any Dev blogs lately or your a troll
Bowbndr
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2015-03-26 08:21:44 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Bowbndr wrote:
As for those that are going to cry about another cloaky camper thread, you can thank the moderators for that. I looked up many threads about cloaky camping and they were all locked.

There's an 83 page thread here that is not locked:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=397030&find=unread


WOW try reading the post before linking it
Bowbndr
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2015-03-26 08:22:29 UTC
bigman111222 wrote:
Either guessing you haven't read any Dev blogs lately or your a troll


if you have a particular dev blog please link
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#8 - 2015-03-26 08:24:00 UTC
Oh boy.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#9 - 2015-03-26 08:25:13 UTC
Bowbndr wrote:
WOW try reading the post before linking it

This bit maybe:

Quote:
For almost all other topics, invoking rule #17 means actually redirecting the discussion to an already existing thread about it. Due to its oft-reposted nature, though, this has not been possible for threads about AFK cloaking. That's not fair to people who actually wish to discuss it, and we do not wish to stifle good discussions. Because of this, we are creating this centralized Official AFK Cloaking™ thread to serve as the gathering place for discussion about it. Any future threads on this same topic will be locked and redirected here for discussion.


Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#10 - 2015-03-26 08:35:30 UTC
This is so depressing. Literally the thread below this one. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=413891

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-03-26 08:46:19 UTC
To be fair, you bunch of trolls haven't really read the OPs topic.

It's not so much about AFK cloaking as it is about the issue that there have been many improvements and changes to the game that have encouraged PvP, while digging in to some of the securities industry characters had. The OPs point is that it's getting harder and harder for the industry pilots to go out in null and do some mining. They can't secure their mining vessels with bubbles because interceptor, they can't rely on the hunter having to scan down the site, as you can just warp to them now, etc ...

It's a decent enough point for discussion. You all need to learn to read before bashing the OPs thread.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#12 - 2015-03-26 09:01:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Bowbndr wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Bowbndr wrote:
As for those that are going to cry about another cloaky camper thread, you can thank the moderators for that. I looked up many threads about cloaky camping and they were all locked.

There's an 83 page thread here that is not locked:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=397030&find=unread


WOW try reading the post before linking it
Try reading the forum rules before opening another redundant thread.
Or if you have another point to make, avoid using AFK cloaking as your main subject.

Reported.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#13 - 2015-03-26 09:10:17 UTC
Bowbndr wrote:

If CCP really wants to Balance the game STOP MAKING EVERY BALANCE TO THE PVPers ADVANTAGE.


Lol.

Don't rent, folks. It rots your brain.

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#14 - 2015-03-26 09:21:07 UTC
Aivo Dresden wrote:
To be fair, you bunch of trolls haven't really read the OPs topic.

It's not so much about AFK cloaking as it is about the issue that there have been many improvements and changes to the game that have encouraged PvP, while digging in to some of the securities industry characters had. The OPs point is that it's getting harder and harder for the industry pilots to go out in null and do some mining. They can't secure their mining vessels with bubbles because interceptor, they can't rely on the hunter having to scan down the site, as you can just warp to them now, etc ...

It's a decent enough point for discussion. You all need to learn to read before bashing the OPs thread.

That is true. He really needs to work on his title, though.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2015-03-26 09:21:53 UTC
today i feel special too so i will make MY OWN 'cloaky camping' topic :)

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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#16 - 2015-03-26 09:24:07 UTC
Closed for ranting.

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