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Amarr Ship Designs: Intolerable Warp Core Resonations

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Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
#21 - 2015-03-25 19:35:45 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Graelyn wrote:
Ottom Ephesianos wrote:
Did not. You backed away from reason because it was soaked in beer.

Have you ever even MET an Amarrian??


I thought he is Amarrian.


I am by blood Ancient Amarrian. I don't have to meet an Amarr. I just look in the mirror.

I use Artillary and autocannons to disable ships before I board them. The cleanest weapons on the market unless I want to cut through their shielding with a knife. If an Armegeddon doesn't have enough warp core shielding to defend against slugs then it is a degraded core from whence last I flew inside Amarr bricks and elevated to Minmatar designs.

As a great pilot once said. "Faster movings better!"


Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#22 - 2015-03-26 02:40:06 UTC
In my experience it's a Matari expertise in ensuring proper warp core stabilization procedures at all times, not the Amarr.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2015-03-26 02:46:17 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
In my experience it's a Matari expertise in ensuring proper warp core stabilization procedures at all times, not the Amarr.


I have never heard of a True Amarr being the grease monkey in their own warship.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#24 - 2015-03-26 03:40:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Graelyn
Quote:
I am by blood Ancient Amarrian. I don't have to meet an Amarr. I just look in the mirror.


I highly doubt it. You just insinuated that we aren't the biggest beer drinkers (and brewers) in the cluster. That we're afraid of the stuff.

Your predilection to call yourself 'ancient amarrian', something you just made up, seals the deal.

You're some orphan raised somewhere else. I refuse to believe you've ever set foot on an Imperial world.

Hells, if you had, the moment you'd opened your mouth you'd have been sterilized to protect the genepool...

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2015-03-26 03:46:40 UTC
The Amarr Empire is one of the biggest exporters, if not *the* biggest exporter, of liquor. You can find their wine and their beer everywhere in the cluster, matched by, if not outright surpassing, the Gallente brews.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#26 - 2015-03-26 03:56:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Graelyn
MmHm.

However, I will gladly accede to the incredible quality of some Gallente vinyards. It pains me for a moment when I find one superior to our best. Then I pop the cork and that pain is forgotten.

But Beer? The Harvest Ascended? The First Gift of Heaven?

The Monks of the brewing Orders stand alone.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2015-03-26 04:17:56 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core...

Actually, on second thoughts, let's keep that completely theoretical. I've no wish to have strange-bosons wandering all over the place in warp.


Oh, I forgot to mention that there are bosons circulating under your feet every time you walk around in a spaceship or a space station. How else would you stay rooted to the flooring panels rather than on the ceiling or walls?

The difference is between circulating and wandering.


Eh, wandering bosons in warp shouldn't be any worse than being thrown around in a rocking sense-deprivation chamber.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
#28 - 2015-03-26 05:39:39 UTC
Graelyn wrote:
MmHm.

However, I will gladly accede to the incredible quality of some Gallente vinyards. It pains me for a moment when I find one superior to our best. Then I pop the cork and that pain is forgotten.

But Beer? The Harvest Ascended? The First Gift of Heaven?

The Monks of the brewing Orders stand alone.


Obviously your zealousness of Amarr craftsmanship has dulled your taste buds to the truly delicious and intoxicating port rums that come out of Minmatar space.

Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#29 - 2015-03-26 05:40:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Graelyn
Pfft.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#30 - 2015-03-26 06:03:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Aldrith Shutaq
How is this thread getting two page's worth of responses? How are any of them getting any responses.

Stop it already. The less you pay attention to crazy people the faster they will go away.

On that note, this thread is now about delicious beer.

I like the dark ones and the fruity ones that get you drunk in two sips. Discuss.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2015-03-26 06:34:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Ottom Ephesianos wrote:
Graelyn wrote:
MmHm.

However, I will gladly accede to the incredible quality of some Gallente vinyards. It pains me for a moment when I find one superior to our best. Then I pop the cork and that pain is forgotten.

But Beer? The Harvest Ascended? The First Gift of Heaven?

The Monks of the brewing Orders stand alone.


Obviously your zealousness of Amarr craftsmanship has dulled your taste buds to the truly delicious and intoxicating port rums that come out of Minmatar space.



Minmatar...port?

You serious mate? Our beer isn't that good and our best brew is quite close to being cleaning alcohol with hops and wheat flavour in it.

If you talk Minmatar drinks you talk coffee. Our coffee is the stuff of the divines!

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
#32 - 2015-03-26 19:33:31 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Ottom Ephesianos wrote:
Graelyn wrote:
MmHm.

However, I will gladly accede to the incredible quality of some Gallente vinyards. It pains me for a moment when I find one superior to our best. Then I pop the cork and that pain is forgotten.

But Beer? The Harvest Ascended? The First Gift of Heaven?

The Monks of the brewing Orders stand alone.


Obviously your zealousness of Amarr craftsmanship has dulled your taste buds to the truly delicious and intoxicating port rums that come out of Minmatar space.



Minmatar...port?

You serious mate? Our beer isn't that good and our best brew is quite close to being cleaning alcohol with hops and wheat flavour in it.

If you talk Minmatar drinks you talk coffee. Our coffee is the stuff of the divines!


I will take you out drinking with myself and my crew and you will see how tasteful a bottle of Minmatar port is with a full meal of Slaver Hound tale and potatoes.

I truly jest about the tale.

On coffee, yes that is exceptional now that you mention it.
Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
#33 - 2015-03-26 19:36:07 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
How is this thread getting two page's worth of responses? How are any of them getting any responses.

Stop it already. The less you pay attention to crazy people the faster they will go away.

On that note, this thread is now about delicious beer.

I like the dark ones and the fruity ones that get you drunk in two sips. Discuss.


You would call me crazy but you emulate God unsuccessfully by enslaving others. Talk about totally insane.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#34 - 2015-03-26 21:28:52 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core...

Actually, on second thoughts, let's keep that completely theoretical. I've no wish to have strange-bosons wandering all over the place in warp.


Oh, I forgot to mention that there are bosons circulating under your feet every time you walk around in a spaceship or a space station. How else would you stay rooted to the flooring panels rather than on the ceiling or walls?

The difference is between circulating and wandering.


Eh, wandering bosons in warp shouldn't be any worse than being thrown around in a rocking sense-deprivation chamber.


Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2015-03-27 01:24:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:


Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation.


Well, thank the automation engineers for coming up with that system that shuts down all attempts to activate a warp drive whenever a leak in the collider tubes are detected. Can't allow the generation of any sort of vacuum environment whenever there's a boson leak.

Ottom Ephesianos wrote:

I will take you out drinking with myself and my crew and you will see how tasteful a bottle of Minmatar port is with a full meal of Slaver Hound tale and potatoes.

I truly jest about the tale.

On coffee, yes that is exceptional now that you mention it.


I spend most of my off hours drinking with my crew and support staff whenever I'm not tinkering with anything. I am Matari. Almost all of my crew and support staff are Matari. Our dining habits are very distinctively Matari, with song and dance and the occasional boasting.

I know exactly what our port tastes like. It's not that good. 40 percent ethanol, prime ingredients being oats or wheat with some hops added. Also yeast. Sometimes something else entirely, as long as it ferments. Some of our liquor could even have alcohol content as high as 70 percent, depending on how it's made.

We drink the stuff to knock ourselves out. We also use the stuff to clean wounds and to clean our equipment. The ones with the highest alcohol content is also sometimes used to clean engine parts, if no other detergent is available. You will be surprised how well those dissolve stains.

And tales of Slaver Hounds? None of us Matari like talking about Slaver Hounds other than as cautionary tales. Remember that throughout our pre-rebellion history we had been blighted by the damned things. Used to be that escaped slaves had Slaver Hounds pouncing on them from way high up (branches and everything. They are very agile climbers. Great vertical maneuverability) and got their throats ripped out. Some of the more brutal slave-owners will even make arenas where the slaves were pitted against Slaver Hounds (spoiler alert: the Slaver Hounds always win). How about that part where the slaves were released into great plains en-masse once a month so that they will be hunted down by Slaver Hounds for sport?

No, none of us like Slaver Hounds much. We do not enjoy talking about Slaver Hounds except as fables or to share information about the roving trajectory of wild Slaver Hound packs.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
#36 - 2015-03-27 02:32:50 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:


Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation.


Well, thank the automation engineers for coming up with that system that shuts down all attempts to activate a warp drive whenever a leak in the collider tubes are detected. Can't allow the generation of any sort of vacuum environment whenever there's a boson leak.

Ottom Ephesianos wrote:

I will take you out drinking with myself and my crew and you will see how tasteful a bottle of Minmatar port is with a full meal of Slaver Hound tale and potatoes.

I truly jest about the tale.

On coffee, yes that is exceptional now that you mention it.


I spend most of my off hours drinking with my crew and support staff whenever I'm not tinkering with anything. I am Matari. Almost all of my crew and support staff are Matari. Our dining habits are very distinctively Matari, with song and dance and the occasional boasting.

I know exactly what our port tastes like. It's not that good. 40 percent ethanol, prime ingredients being oats or wheat with some hops added. Also yeast. Sometimes something else entirely, as long as it ferments. Some of our liquor could even have alcohol content as high as 70 percent, depending on how it's made.

We drink the stuff to knock ourselves out. We also use the stuff to clean wounds and to clean our equipment. The ones with the highest alcohol content is also sometimes used to clean engine parts, if no other detergent is available. You will be surprised how well those dissolve stains.

And tales of Slaver Hounds? None of us Matari like talking about Slaver Hounds other than as cautionary tales. Remember that throughout our pre-rebellion history we had been blighted by the damned things. Used to be that escaped slaves had Slaver Hounds pouncing on them from way high up (branches and everything. They are very agile climbers. Great vertical maneuverability) and got their throats ripped out. Some of the more brutal slave-owners will even make arenas where the slaves were pitted against Slaver Hounds (spoiler alert: the Slaver Hounds always win). How about that part where the slaves were released into great plains en-masse once a month so that they will be hunted down by Slaver Hounds for sport?

No, none of us like Slaver Hounds much. We do not enjoy talking about Slaver Hounds except as fables or to share information about the roving trajectory of wild Slaver Hound packs.


I have been planet side to some of the less war torn Minmatar Tribes where slavery is more a thing of the past while the war still rages on in space. In these small hamlets of civilian culture you will find things like, rehabilitated slaver hounds instead of rehabilitated slaves. You will also find the fastest warp core developers in the field.

These are the places where I find these ports and these are the places where ethanol is used to degrease an engine while the port is exquisite.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2015-03-27 03:27:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Ottom Ephesianos wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:


Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation.


Well, thank the automation engineers for coming up with that system that shuts down all attempts to activate a warp drive whenever a leak in the collider tubes are detected. Can't allow the generation of any sort of vacuum environment whenever there's a boson leak.

Ottom Ephesianos wrote:

I will take you out drinking with myself and my crew and you will see how tasteful a bottle of Minmatar port is with a full meal of Slaver Hound tale and potatoes.

I truly jest about the tale.

On coffee, yes that is exceptional now that you mention it.


I spend most of my off hours drinking with my crew and support staff whenever I'm not tinkering with anything. I am Matari. Almost all of my crew and support staff are Matari. Our dining habits are very distinctively Matari, with song and dance and the occasional boasting.

I know exactly what our port tastes like. It's not that good. 40 percent ethanol, prime ingredients being oats or wheat with some hops added. Also yeast. Sometimes something else entirely, as long as it ferments. Some of our liquor could even have alcohol content as high as 70 percent, depending on how it's made.

We drink the stuff to knock ourselves out. We also use the stuff to clean wounds and to clean our equipment. The ones with the highest alcohol content is also sometimes used to clean engine parts, if no other detergent is available. You will be surprised how well those dissolve stains.

And tales of Slaver Hounds? None of us Matari like talking about Slaver Hounds other than as cautionary tales. Remember that throughout our pre-rebellion history we had been blighted by the damned things. Used to be that escaped slaves had Slaver Hounds pouncing on them from way high up (branches and everything. They are very agile climbers. Great vertical maneuverability) and got their throats ripped out. Some of the more brutal slave-owners will even make arenas where the slaves were pitted against Slaver Hounds (spoiler alert: the Slaver Hounds always win). How about that part where the slaves were released into great plains en-masse once a month so that they will be hunted down by Slaver Hounds for sport?

No, none of us like Slaver Hounds much. We do not enjoy talking about Slaver Hounds except as fables or to share information about the roving trajectory of wild Slaver Hound packs.


I have been planet side to some of the less war torn Minmatar Tribes where slavery is more a thing of the past while the war still rages on in space. In these small hamlets of civilian culture you will find things like, rehabilitated slaver hounds instead of rehabilitated slaves. You will also find the fastest warp core developers in the field.

These are the places where I find these ports and these are the places where ethanol is used to degrease an engine while the port is exquisite.


Slavery IS a thing of the past everywhere there are actual Minmatar clans and tribes taking residence. The Amarr Empire are in the habit of replacing the culture of the enslaved races with their own.

You *can't* rehabilitate Slaver Hounds. They are, by instinct, highly vicious predators. You have to tame then, the way the Amarr did, to get any use out of them beyond losing all your limbs. The Amarr have spent many generations trying to tame them and breed out the species's highly aggressive instincts, with some degree of success. For one they no longer go after just about anyone and can be ordered to de-aggress, sit and roll-over. Still, that predatory instinct hasn't been breed out entirely and many an Amarr hound-tamer still get mauled from time to time.

Why they even keep Slaver Hounds around children is beyond me.

Warp core drives are developed NOT in low sec. The place is too unstable, too vulnerable to pirate raids, to encourage any investment in high tech industry in those locations. What manufacturing industry that occurs at all take place in the security of space station where there are heavily armed capsuleers to protect their investments. You want warp core development Matari-side? Boundless Creation in the core worlds is where it's at. That or Thukker magic in the Great Wildlands.

Seriously. Thukkers man. Those guys are amazing.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#38 - 2015-03-27 14:22:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core...


The shielding is an integral part of the reactor. If it's not perfect, the core just evaporates.

You get a nice high-energy gamma burst from it, though. Very pretty, from a distance. Like, say, a few kilometers.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#39 - 2015-03-28 11:56:34 UTC
Ottom was wrong when he flew with FU2 all those years ago, and he's still wrong now.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2015-03-28 12:31:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Rodj Blake wrote:
Ottom was wrong when he flew with FU2 all those years ago, and he's still wrong now.


Honestly though, he is wrong in so many things, from Amarr religion to the natural behaviour of Slaver Hounds to Matari culture that I doubt he has actually left the confinement of some cell to mingle with, well, anything since he was born. It's like he is a brain locked in jar with electrodes stuck to the cerebrum feeding it whatever erroneous information some other party felt like divulging.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.