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Valencia Mariana
Shadow Legion X
#121 - 2015-03-25 12:05:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Valencia Mariana
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
Galdur Trudaihnel wrote:

This move has highlighted an insidious and deceitful nature. If CCP hold any regard to the legitimacy of the voting process and the CSM candidacy CCP should remove his CSM position and there should be a re-vote between the candidates that didn’t make the cut (including Corbrex). Only candidates that wasted a vote on Corbexx should be able to take part in the re-vote.


According to CCP Leeloo, it is unfair but not against the rules, and that is a direct quote that I received from her.

Sadly, if CCP says it's a legit way to receive votes and get on the CSM, there is sadly nothing that we can do about it... I disagree with CCP completely on this and I rather gave my votes to someone else, but we can't turn it back now.

It's f*cking sad nonetheless




Typically when someone does a high profile switch in real life, they will volunteer for a re-election in their constitution. This ensures their authority, which is given to them by the electorate, is maintained. I do not think this is mandatory though, however if they did not they would have no authority.

Valencia Mariana The Red Circle Inc.
Pesadel0
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#122 - 2015-03-25 14:51:34 UTC
My 2 cents is that corbex was a dumbo if he thinks that after 48h he would switch to a NS alliance from a WH corp and wouldnt get trolled to hell by the same people that voted him for the csm.

And you being a diplo on goonswarm , i know that you will have allot of free time to play the game AND take care of the WH community .

Good luck.
Dramaticus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#123 - 2015-03-25 16:37:26 UTC
The HOPE and CHANGE I paid for.

The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal

The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#124 - 2015-03-25 16:39:25 UTC
Welcome to the winning side, corbexx.

This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#125 - 2015-03-25 16:43:16 UTC
Valencia Mariana wrote:
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
Galdur Trudaihnel wrote:

This move has highlighted an insidious and deceitful nature. If CCP hold any regard to the legitimacy of the voting process and the CSM candidacy CCP should remove his CSM position and there should be a re-vote between the candidates that didn’t make the cut (including Corbrex). Only candidates that wasted a vote on Corbexx should be able to take part in the re-vote.


According to CCP Leeloo, it is unfair but not against the rules, and that is a direct quote that I received from her.

Sadly, if CCP says it's a legit way to receive votes and get on the CSM, there is sadly nothing that we can do about it... I disagree with CCP completely on this and I rather gave my votes to someone else, but we can't turn it back now.

It's f*cking sad nonetheless




Typically when someone does a high profile switch in real life, they will volunteer for a re-election in their constitution. This ensures their authority, which is given to them by the electorate, is maintained. I do not think this is mandatory though, however if they did not they would have no authority.


good thing this is a game and not RL right!?

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
EvilweaselFinance
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#126 - 2015-03-25 17:10:25 UTC  |  Edited by: EvilweaselFinance
i'm glad corbexx could rise above petty partisan politics and show that it's who you are, not who you're with, that matters for the CSM. he's shown that he was worthy of every vote he received and probably more
Garr Khan
Grey Area Operations
#127 - 2015-03-25 17:13:59 UTC
Will he be joining Holesquad?
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#128 - 2015-03-25 17:16:19 UTC
Papa Django wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
The idea that Corbexx can't properly represent wormholers with a [CONDI] ticker is pretty silly. We have our fingers in many pies, including wormspace activities.

If anything, seeing wormholes from a different perspective to the one he has held previously should make him a better CSM.


Come on stop trolling plz.

If Corbexx is in a nullsec corp, his main activity will be nullsec and he can't by definition represent wormhole.

But that's not the point, the issue here is a lot of people voted for him because he was in a respected wormhole alliance. At my scale i have done a lot of lobbying to just make my mates vote for the CSM.

How can i explain to them that Corbexx from NOHO is joining GSF ?

For us NOHO means independance and freedom and GSF means servitude and F1 monkey.

Now, most of them will never vote again for the CSM election, because the candidate can be elected on a platform and switch to another on day 1.

Their conclusion is : CSM election are bullshit because candidate can do anything without any consequences. And i am close to conclude that too.

We could have elected someone else, like Ariete if we have been informed about that. This is not fair at all.


Man, just when I thought we had extracted all possible tears from the CSM elections we get this beauty of a thread.
The hilarious part is the true meta is so much more complicated and deep than anyone except a handful are aware of. Ah well, rage against the machine peasants.

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Kean Sheehan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#129 - 2015-03-25 17:20:48 UTC
Garr Khan wrote:
Will he be joining Holesquad?


Unironically this. Corbexx get your nerdy ass in Hole Squad so we can be ~legitimate wormholers~.
Pierre Pappotte
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#130 - 2015-03-25 17:21:51 UTC
Welcome aboard! Really glad to have someone representing our interests in W-Space.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#131 - 2015-03-25 17:46:35 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Zappity wrote:
Mike Azariah wrote:
You voted for a man, not a ticker.

Half true at best. Personally, I thought CSM X work be dominated by null blocs so it would be good to have a wormhole independent. That didn't work out so well, did it? As for the man, Corbexx evidently thought it a good idea to deliberately taunt the people who put him back on the CSM, as well as bring the meta deep into the CSM. So that's not working out too well either.

Mike, I wonder how your core constituents would feel if you chose to join CODE the day after the announcement. You could try the 'man, not ticker' line but I'm not convinced it would work.


True enough. Not that I am about to do any such thing.

m


If you ever change your mind, the New Order will accept you with open arms.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#132 - 2015-03-25 17:47:57 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Just disappointed a wormhole rep joins a bad nullgroup. You could've atleast joined BL, PIZZA or PL or one of the other competent ones, but no you join the largest group you could fine that's just barely competent.


The CFC is by far the best at sov warfare. They play that game very effectively.
Aryndel Vyst
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#133 - 2015-03-25 18:00:19 UTC
LOL at you nerds taking a shift in alliances so seriously. Go outside and get some vitamin D please.

This isn't a betrayal, this isn't some grandiose scheme to screw over the voters. Dude realized by meeting some of our leadership that we're not such douchers as you high sec miner pubbies think
Nitris Denitrace
WeebFleet
Tsundere Triad
#134 - 2015-03-25 18:18:54 UTC
corbexx wrote:
One of the main issues of being on the the CSM is that when ever you log in you get bombarded with convos and mails.



Yes, it's almost like people rely on you as a conduit between the player community and the developers. Welcome to being CSM, if you don't like what it brings than don't run.
Certainly interesting timing that you announce this 2 days after your succession into CSM X. Enjoy Null Sec, the only thing the wormhole community can hope for is you burn out and someone who actually wants the position takes your place.
Bumpin Bumpkin
Doomheim
#135 - 2015-03-25 18:40:38 UTC
"Yeah, who cares that the guy has alts in various parts of W-Space and is the best rep that's ever been on the CSM from that arena of the game. He's got one character in goons. The one-drop rule of W-space."
thetwilitehour
Caldari Provisions
#136 - 2015-03-25 19:13:15 UTC
the mittani sends his regards
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#137 - 2015-03-25 19:19:00 UTC
Pissfat wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
rabble rabble rabble.



You know you are just like white noise now right?


Sorry, we killed White Noise 3 years ago.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#138 - 2015-03-25 19:31:53 UTC
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
Galdur Trudaihnel wrote:

This move has highlighted an insidious and deceitful nature. If CCP hold any regard to the legitimacy of the voting process and the CSM candidacy CCP should remove his CSM position and there should be a re-vote between the candidates that didn’t make the cut (including Corbrex). Only candidates that wasted a vote on Corbexx should be able to take part in the re-vote.


According to CCP Leeloo, it is unfair but not against the rules, and that is a direct quote that I received from her.

Sadly, if CCP says it's a legit way to receive votes and get on the CSM, there is sadly nothing that we can do about it... I disagree with CCP completely on this and I rather gave my votes to someone else, but we can't turn it back now.

It's f*cking sad nonetheless




Wait what? You're already aware that CCP allow literal vote-buying, and this is the thing that makes you think "oh my, SO unfair"?

Allow me to explain your conceptual error in three words:





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Garnt TheBrobarian
Whole Squid
#139 - 2015-03-25 20:44:49 UTC
Garr Khan wrote:
Will he be joining Holesquad?


I believe he had actually been in previously on his Thomas Hurt alt.
Pesadel0
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#140 - 2015-03-25 23:57:41 UTC
You know you (corbex) are doing something right when the forum goon brigade is called to "save" you from the WH forums .