EVE General Discussion

Right on time...just after DT

Checked 4+ systems so far and pretty much all the same...

http://i.imgur.com/t9sB4Uf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/J3mdQqU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZrBw0Lq.jpg

Each one of those is one guy each controlling all those....they have no issue openly admitting it.

Go see for yourself, scout all the different regions in high sec, every single ice system. You will see similar pretty much everywhere especially before and after DT because ice belts after DT respawn even if its within the 4hrs....so before downtime clear belts with 20+ accounts....after DT instant respawn, do it again....$$$$....

Thats nothing we had to compete with a 70 man mining fleet with a 10 man oracle escort an orca and a freighter all lead by a nighthawk..... all the same guy the belt lasted approximately 6 cycles before it was gone....

so we moved upto to amarr space was nice & quiet my old corp had the biggest fleet in the belt then the ice price dropped by about 1/3 making it not worth mining.... i have a huge stock of ice sat in a station i was waiting for the price to rise.... about 27k blocks actually because its not worth selling.... would be more effort to move it for the price i get even compressed it would take about 8 freighters..

find a new hobby to make isks ice is not what it used to be...i now live in null and make quadrouple to isk i did mining ice..

they tried to cut down on the multiboxing by restricting ISboxer but it only made a minimal effect as a whole you still get large 1 (real player) fleets mining everything...

Using multiple characters is an integral part of Eve

They get more (with the implication that there is the law of diminishing returns in play) with the more accounts they get

This has been around since the inception of the game when people were mining in cruisers and realized that hey, if they get a second cruiser they can mine so much more for that fancy ass new raven (good ol' days)

The lack of resources you seem to be experiencing is not the disease of multiple accounts but rather the symptom, the disease being game mechanics

You literally warp to location, Orbit, lock and F1

The ice belt debate is up for grabs as the first solution would be:

Infinite ice - infinite supply, lowish risk, limited demand, therefore low prices but in the other hand you get to mine as much as you want regardless of other people in your belt, just remembering that it is a competition

the second being:

4 hour timers - Limited supply, limited time frame, lots of people suck up ice and leave none for newer players
There is something you have to realize with this, since there is a limited supply that means at some point, due to the way mining works, you will hit a hard cap as to how much ice you can mine per hour, which means the only way to add more efficiency is to add characters, so either every one in the game gets limited to 1 character to rectify this, or you make more to combat this, as even if they werent all run by 1 guy, other players would make more accounts to fill the vacancy

then any other funky town solutions players can think of

I dont see where you are trying to go with this

Would you prefer No multiple accounts, (btw isboxer still legal, just no input multiplexing) - and subsequently crash eve
No 4 hour belts (there is mining ore, yields more isk/h tbh if done correctly)
meaning you want infinite belts where you can mine as much as you want?

Oh I completely agree with what your saying.

Ban the bot. Oh, we already do that. Identify bots as you see them and drop a dime on them.
The boys at the CCP Precinct are always happy to know what's happening in the 'hood.

And they get bored within a few minutes and you can mine for hours on end again. Ask my friends at Bovril Borers how to do it.

It's only "risk free cheap" ganking,
because no one bothers protecting (his) miners.

Anyone can change this situation with a battlecruiser and a bit of research.

I have looked at the majority of all high sec ice systems...

Moved around 20 jumps already today alone and find the same thing all over....

Here have some more...

http://i.imgur.com/GhRWNd7.png

4 Belts almost gone over 2 systems so far, they working on 4th and soon 5th belt in a 3rd system since downtime...they also did exactly the same thing before downtime so by the time they finish they would of farmed almost 12 belts of ice before and after downtime...to one player pretty much. Repeat another 6 belts in next 4 hours spawn time, and again the next day...

Not all of those is same guy but 90% of them. We had a nice discussion about what CCP should do about ICE belts in local and they agree the changes were stupid and he understands how it is unfair on those trying to do a little bit of mining here and there and completely favors those with 15-20 accounts doing mega farming....but like everyone else he says its completely legit part of the game and he is allowed to do it, which is true.

CCP screwed up with the ice belt changes and the game mechanics around ice mining now have completely screwed solo miners, small corps or anyone basically who is wanting to ice mine but does not have 15-20 accounts.

Move 20 systems and same thing....no matter what ice system you go to...

Go check for yourself.

If you're so concerned with these guys clearing out all the belts, why are you hiding their names and such instead of offering them up and asking for a ganker response?

Because its against forum rules? Is why I blacked out the names.