Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Here i am only with numbers and a value for money.

Nowadays we have a situation where T3 destroyers cost cheaper than T2.
Confessor - 32kk vs. Heretic - 41kk
Svipul - 39kk vs. Sabre - 42kk

Now lets compare some vitality and fitting abilities. i take numbers with all lvl5 and defense mode on confessor (no doubts it is most popular mode)

Confessor vs Heretic.
armor hp:
1000
vs
938
armor resists:
67|57|63|73
vs
60|48|55|68
Signature:
40
vs
75
low-slots:
5 vs 3

Also we have
powergrid:
100
vs
75

Now lets see what we've got here.
+25 pg, +3 lowslots, - 2 hardpoints which makes confessor have even more free powergreed. so now we have ability to fit 10mn AB, signature 40, resist 80%+, invulnerable to scramble (doesn't cancel mwd), speed under web about ~1200, and firepower about 400dps +, small energy nosferato etc. Also it's signature goes down to 26 under skirmish bonuses (just like interceptors). Most pilots know how important to have low signature.

I don't want to compare sabre and svipul, coz we will have same result.

Someone might say that interdictor has a specific role, but.. u can compare T3 destroyer to Assault ship for example.
Assault ships now replaced by T3 destroyers. T3s have same signature, better resistance, more DPS, more speed, same price.
Assoult ship can not fit 10mn AB without crutches

Looks like someone in CCP should be fired.

Yes. Thats why i write about it. I have two options. 1. Quit EVE coz it become ridiculous 2. Type some text and wait if something will change. Yet i've chosen 2nd, but not for a long time i think.

Biggest issue is fitting freedom.

The svipul can fit an oversized 10mn AB, TWO oversized shield mods (2x medium extenders OR 2x medium ancillary boosters)... and STILL fit a full rack of 150mm guns.

CCP just introduced an obviously-better-in-every-way ship class... JUST like T3 cruisers... and doesn't give a sh*t about balance. That's all I can assume, because they haven't said a thing about nerfing the Svipul or Confessor.

Bad game design + not caring at all... at it's finest.

T2 Dessies are better at fitting Interdiction Sphere Launchers. You know, their intended purpose. Different ships do different things well. The only ships that got their role dumpstered by the advent of T3 Dessies are the majority of Assault Frigs.

And T1 cruisers attempting to be nano-fit in any way.

A good Svipul could break a lot of T1 cruiser's tanks, while tanking a lot of T1 cruiser's damage, while being faster (without the vulnerability to scramblers turning off it's AB), and smaller.

The Svipul is too good, just admit it. It needs a nerf. I'm training Min Tactical Destroyer 5, so I'll be exploiting it as much as the next meta-troll, but I still strongly support a nerf.

T3 Dessies Combined Interceptors and Assault Frigates and tossed on 10MN afterburners just to give some more power..

agree. the price should be about 150kk for hull.

The sig + AB is only relevant on the confessor. On the svipul you'll have a flat 50m.

Honestly, the confessor is strong. It has all the advantages of a coercer with a decent tank tacked on, and good speed when swapped to propulsion mode. It strong, eats frigates alive, but really doesn't hit outside of its weight class.

The Svipul is another story. It was obviously designed to function as an arty thrasher with a tiny bit more dps, a decent tank, and some decent speed/scan res in other modes. The real issue comes when you fit it with autocannons. The sheer amount of fitting room it has in this configuration is disgusting. Dual MASB's or MSE's with 10mn afterburners is easy to set up. Buffer fits double the ehp of assault frigates with only 25% more sig radius, and then can swap to propulsion mode for interceptor like speeds. This is a ship with the sig of a frigate, the tank of a cruiser, and the dps of a cruiser, with 4.1km/s ALL WITH NO BLING. Yes, this needs a nerf. The only reason these ships die is because their pilots get over confident and take fights that they shouldn't, usually against multiple cruisers.

D3 's are overpiwered effective and cheap and flexible.

Why all these tears ?

It's a gift take it or leave it. No need to leave game.

You know, someone could just say that they were custom-made for lower class wormhole space so you don't have to reship for all the tasks you wanna do but that's just how I see it.

They are strong but not unbeatable.