Market Discussions

Good day

Now, I come from a time when all of us used to fly around the Genesis region: Kemerk.... Manarq - those systems were the scenery, and of course, with Yulai being the trade hub of the EVE Universe.

A very long story told short: Some trade lanes & star gates were re-routed and now you have... Jita, but enough about the sad & gloomy.

Is there anyone here that prefers Amarr, or Dodixie to that overcrowded pit of blue space?

As it stands, I'll be trying to develop the Amarr system & the Domain region as the most pleasant hub of trade & business. Of course, you can't go against market forces that shape the landscape with the move of every hundredth of an ISK, however, good volume of T2 and Faction/Deadspace module trade does drive the dynamo of life in such places - And we can increase & expand said volume by simply choosing to be here.

Having lived there for more than 6 years, with considerable breaks from Eve, I feel that the place such as Amarr has the charm, the soul, and more importantly, the clients, suppliers, producers & the infrastructure to be the most prominent business centre in the heart of the Empire.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter, and please do share experience, anonymously if so desired, of your trading ventures in a similar vein - the development of alternative trade centres in high-sec.

Regards,

Dodixie is indeed a very pleasant place... relatively.

I still base my holdings empire in Amarr as it is more central relative to everywhere else. However I must point out, that a lot of lowsec systems divide Domain from Minmatar space, and chiefly - Rens. Trade between these two hubs has practically dried out, when prior to the Factional warfare, there had been a lot of runs between the two. Now, twenty systems separate them, if one plans to travel through high security space.

I think that trade and volume will return in force to all hubs, as the new sov expansion hits this year.

You weren't using the right tools for the task you wished to accomplish.

How do you think the residents of Sinq Laison value your presence? It is genuine high volume trade, supplying the hub, or market... cornering of sorts.

We've all been there, though I generally do unload my merchandise in Domain specifically, in order to draw in more people away from Jita.

I knew Jita's trade volume was noticeably higher than Amarr and Dodi - at least as I remember in back in 2009, but 3.2 times the amount of Amarr sell orders?

Good job, CCP.

Thanks for killing Yulai and the rest of Empire. By not being in Jita you're missing on so many opportunities, that it's impossible to make sufficient returns trading without supplementing it with manufacturing/research.

I'll stay in Amarr till the inventory is there. The second it's out, I'm out.

Splendid work, CCP - excellent, super-stronkk gate connections, forcing the whole of Eve there.



☐ Blackhole. ☑ Jita

Having lowered my blood pressure somewhat, I do see why it is so extremely skewed, however.

As in real life, time is of the essence for everyone who is involved in our more real than you think Eve Universe, so people will tend to flock and congregate in the most easily-accessible, most-known, whether due to tales of riches, fame or infamy, a place that fulfills their (often basic) needs per lowest unit of time. Jita it is.

I understand that CCP can do little to change human nature, other than changing the star gate routes again.

And as such, I'm very sad.

Leave me to grieve over my ISKies.

P.S. Amarr Victor!

Jumpfreighters haven't been reduced to 5ly jumprage yet. Let's see what happens to Jita once Jumpfreighter are reduced.

The volumes given are active sell-orders (not trade volume!), including those scam orders or Mammoth for 1.4 billion ISK (just in case the market runs dry) and most important: PLEX.

Remove PLEX from the sell-order value and you might see Amarr being closer to Jita.

If you want to put Yulai back to #1 tradehub on eve-marketdata.com - just create a sell-order for 1 Tritanium for 30 trillion ISK and be happy with:

1 Yulai - This broken CONCORD station 30,000,000,000,000ISK (30.0tril)
2 Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant 27,384,145,039,084ISK (27.4tril)
3 Amarr VIII (Oris) - Emperor Family Academy 8,303,522,837,767ISK (8.3tril)

I've mostly been using Dodixie in the last few years. The only things I ever buy in Jita is t2 or faction hulls if they're significantly cheaper than anywhere else. Amarr has always been too far away from where I've been based, so I haven't done much shopping there.

For quite a while Dodixie used to be our hub of choice. It probably is not too bad for buyers but not that good for sellers due to people selling too cheap and 'MIMAF' people. But depending what you're selling you don't need to haul or use trade hubs nowadays. So that just leaves occasional trips to hubs to buy stuff cheaply every so often.