Crime & Punishment

1) I really enjoy flying transports and fulfilling contracts.... moving stuff around. I liked that in Elite back then.... and I like that here and now. It is an extra kick knowing that the contracts I am fulfilling are contracts made by actual players that are paying to have stuff moved!

2) Exploring is fun, wherever it is.

Just two examples?? Please.
Just because I have fun doing stuff that you don't enjoy... we should be embracing the differences between us.

It could also be that successfully avoiding a gate camp in uedama also contributes to my fun... without needing me to be attacking or blowing up other people.

I'll accept those as fun, but cowardly.

We just have too much fun. :D Besides, most of us have alts out in low, null, or WH space.

Killing Ventures for example in PF- is much higher risk 1337 pvp of course

https://zkillboard.com/character/92717906/group/463/

noone can check that you have alts in WH/low/0.0... so i don't take. Sorry

and having fun means nothing when you talk about 'cowardity'

Not that i care anyway

I frequently see null and lowsec players accuse high sec players of being unskilled or cowards.

I am writing this to try to bridge the gap. I have no animosity towards low or null players. I've met guys with great skill who play in both areas. However, from what I've seen, the high sec crowd is not substantially outclassed.

Great players are great players... regardless of where the engagement takes place.

For me, I believe the quality of the player is based on the individual's command of maneuver and damage mechanics. Individuals who understand engagements make good builds and use them correctly. They make the most of every situation, no matter how bad the odds.

Regardless of where they play (low, null, or high), I think the quality of a player is dictated by skill alone... and players in all areas have it.


The cowardice piece is even more foreign to me. Cowardice implies risk aversion.

For me, it's not that I'm risk averse. Quite the opposite. I am a true solo player (no multibox).

I like taking a lot of risk when I play and seeing if I can beat the odds. I generally play with cheap ships that are pretty easily replaceable.


A few vignettes to counter the idea that I'm risk averse (I can post KM's to substantiate this):
-I was ranked as mighty mouse on Battleclinic before they came up with the strange new interface, with about 15 solo cruiser kills with a T1 frigate.
-I've got a Rokh kill with a Hawk (shot it with Rokhets)
-I once killed a cormorant and thorax at the same time with a griffin. (crap builds... but I didn't know that when the fight started... and the thorax player was as old as I was). My ass was on fire by the time that was over.
-Early on in the Orphanage (before it go so many people), the 10+ war decs on major null alliances produced some "touch and go" fights. If I'm that bad, you would think I would have been averse to fighting 10+ major null alliances.
-I spent a substantial portion of 2012 stealing everything I could find in a battle badger... and if you look at some of the ships I picked fights with in a badger you wouldn't call me risk averse.
-I can post a fight in Osvestmunur in which" Nolimitsoldier" and I took down ~17 opponents in all sized ships with just the two of us (approx. 25 in the enemy fleet).


If I was risk averse, I would not have tried to do these things. If you look at my ship losses you will probably conclude that I don't play to keep ships and, possibly, that my problem is risk affinity or just poor judgement.

Ultimately, I play to have fun and I never degrade or disrespect my opponents.

Hopefully you can conclude that cowardice isn't my problem. With the cheap imaginary ships I fly, who would even care to lose them.

My old corp mates used to accuse me of welfare warfare.


So why don't I play in low?
I tried. If for no other reason than to get more respect, I'd love to do it.

I think playing in low is like hanging out at the pool at a Motel 6. You most likely won't see anyone else there. If you do, violence is likely. But most days, it's just you in a crappy location with nothing to do.

I also hate the fact that you can't aggress on gates in low (or the gate guns turn you into a puff of confetti).

Also, I don't multibox. If I get a -10 sec status, then I'm stuck at the Motel 6. I don't like that idea.


Why don't I play in null? -
I'm trying it for the 5th time now. Honestly, it makes high sec look like a Rambo movie. The ultimate problem, though, is inconvenience.

1) I have never tried non-alliance null. However, I don't know how that would work unless I became so good I never lost a ship again. I would love to know how people do it. Where do you keep your stuff? How do you get modules... and ammo?
2) I think null is like high sec, except with 10x the rules. In fact, I would say I have less rules in real life than in null. Every time I go down I get pummeled with bureaucratic rules and bad leadership. Deep null politics are a major turn-off for me.
2) Also, every time I go to null, I spend 14 hours trying to find parts to fit out a ship. When I'm done, I've spent half a billion isk to build a half heavy missile/half cruise, armor rep raven with 3 empty mid slots, a tractor beam, and a civilian mining laser.

Not to disparage null players, but their rank and file is no more expert in builds than the equivalent player in high sec.


I play in high because I don't need anyone to tell me what to do. I get to decide who I want to shoot and who I don't. I can say whatever I want in local. I can fly whatever I want whenever I want.

If I don't like someone enough, I can just declare war on him.

But more than anything, I just want to be able to get ships when I want to. Low and null are just inconvenient. I have to subordinate my playtime to a logistics system.

I just don't see the benefit.

I threw up in my brain.

Show us on the strawman where the 1% touched you.


Nevermind. We know.

Another typical contribution to the high level of discourse on the eve forums - keep up the good work.

No one is killing your game. Stop with the hysterical reactions...even if somehow all nonconsensual PvP was removed from highsec (which no one is contemplating) you would still be more than welcome to go shoot people in nullsec.