EVE New Citizens Q&A

Removed some recruitment posts.

I personally thank you for sharing and **** on those that say you are whining.

I find it interesting that any time someone gets screwed by someone else in this game and posts their story, that there is a pack of douche bags that tells you that you are a whiner and don't know how to play.

It's interesting that this is the only game I have played where screwing other players is actively encouraged. Well more could be said about this ... but why waste my breath?

Anyway, I ask you not to quit, learn form your mistakes, and find some good guys to team up with.

Best of Luck

Sorry that you feel you can no longer enjoy this game. It sucks when friends leave and go elsewhere, it's a major reason why people stop playing MMOs. Often they only hang around because their friends still play.

But you know, it is possible to make new friends in EVE, if you want to. Just be cautious, and do what you can to prevent people taking your stuff. Move to a safe base of operations for a while, take things easy. Buy yourself a PLEX to give you some funds (no, it's not pay to win), relax and just do stuff for fun.

Hell, make it your mission to destroy the people who made you mad. Make an alt (but keep its API free of any contact with your mains), be smart, get intel on them, find out where they are, who their alts are, hunt them mercilessly or gain their trust and steal everything they own.

90% of corporations out there will help players immensely. I joined a nullsec corp 2 months into the game. I spent a lot of time setting up tactical bookmarks for the corp, scouting for trade runs, and helping tackle in fleets. I was given a few hundred million ISK as a thank you for doing that stuff. Low skill points does not mean you are unable to help.

Corporations help people who help the corporation.

You need to give back to the corp however you can. If you are't helping them and just want to get something out of them, you will get screwed. I recently rejoined my first corp (nearly two years after quitting) and they are still using a good chunk of the tactical BMs my two-month-old 2012 rookie created.

All that being said, "in EVE trust people, just don't trust them with your ISK"

Keep only the bare minimum of what you need in null, any time a WH opens to highsec, dump anything extra and valuable you possibly have in a highsec station.

Seriously....

Have you looked at the stickies on the forum?

Apparantly not, otherwise you would have found that guide that helps you find the corp that suits you (and yes, for every player there IS a corp that suits him/her. The hard part is finding it).

Cause EVE is a sandbox, and all the other games are theme-parks where on every corner there is a security guard to protect you from harming yourself and others.


Yes, his story is good, as it's an experience of a new player that others can read up about and learn from.
But all that happened is genuine and allowed gameplay, so you either accept it, learn from it and adapt...or you don't, your own choice.

Looking for a corp to join is a matter of doing your research, getting out and meeting new people, and through their connections getting recommendations of corps to join. And then you still research the corp.

For one thing, check their killboard. See what kind of targets they go after and kill - it'll also tell you the kind of places they operate in. For another, go research them on EveWho.

http://evewho.com/

If you want to find out if a corp is active in your time zone, pull up the corp information on EveWho (you have to spell it exactly), and pull up the member list.

Then add every last one of them to your contacts and watch list by clicking the little asterisk next to each name. This will allow you to see who is logged on and who is logged off in the corporation whenever you log on. If everyone is asleep or at work every time you log in during the week - cross that corp off your list. Make sure to put the corp in it's own custom watch list folder so you can delete them all easily when you rule the corp out.

Probably wouldn't hurt to run a few general internet searches on them in the forums and elsewhere as well. You might learn something.

And here's a final word of advice.

Never, never, NEVER move all your assets to a new corp staging area. I'd say at most, you should only be housing about a third of your assets in areas the new corp controls.

For instance, when I joined a small wormhole corporation, they invited me to come live in the wormhole system and stage out of their POS. Which I did. But I only moved about a quarter of my ships into the wormhole. The rest of my stuff stayed safely docked in Amarr. The most expensive ships never left Amarr usually. And especially during the first week or two of testing, I only brought in cheap ships that wouldn't make anyone feel anything other than lame to steal.

They were nice guys. Helpful and ultimately turned out to be trustworthy. But even once I trusted them I still only kept no more than a quarter of my assets in the POS.

The neat thing about trust and friendship is that it works a lot better when you don't give people any real incentives to backstab you.

Even when I had to quit the corp due to IRL issues, I didn't announce my decision to my CEO until I had quietly removed all the expensive ships I'd fit and paid for myself safely out of the hole and into hisec. And that was after I'd been with these guys over a year and trusted them completely and considered them buddies more or less. And I still didn't completely trust them not pull a cute stunt on me.

Here's the deal - in Eve, you got to learn to have split personalities and multiple identities. And never put ALL your in-game identity into one thing.

You don't put all of your characters into one organization - because you might get betrayed and need those alts to facilitate things. You might get wardecced and need a neutral character to haul stuff out to your location without the worry of war targets killing him. You might even just want a neutral scout who can slip into systems and monitor your own war targets.

And if you can financially pay for that much ISK, you can afford to fund a couple different accounts. Keep a neutral Incursion running character, for instance. Train up an industrialist, or a hauling alt, or a covert ops cyno alt, or whatever your destiny in Eve calls for. I don't care about paying for ISK - if it makes more sense to buy ISK than run level four missions for hours to get it, by all means, go ahead. But you gotta spread the investment around and diversify a bit - on multiple characters, and not just on one corp.

You said you didn't want your character to get tied down in mining? So what? Make a mining alt and let HER do all the mining. Then use another character for other stuff.

Never have all your eggs in one basket. If someone betrays you, make sure it's just a setback, not the end of your business. People say to have a life outside your job in real life. I say, an Eve character should have a life outside his or her corp too. If the corp gets shut down for whatever reason, it's not the end of your game time.

It's fine to take a risk on a corp that maybe you haven't researched completely (as long as you at least did a bit of investigation). Take a chance - but don't wager the whole pot.

I would probably agree with you that the war dec mechanic is broken atm and I think the devs realize that also but I don't think it's that big of a deal. What I mean is that even if they could "fix" the war dec system which would necessitate a complete revamp of high sec, so as to not break the economy, I don't think it would make the game all that much different. At the end of the day high sec is intended to be a place where new players start out and can get used the basic aspects of the game before moving on to more complicated aspects. Also a place to retreat to when stuff goes south and keep your most valuable assets.

Eve is not a Theme Park MMO the devs had said repeatedly that their goal is to make a sandbox game with emergent game play based around player interactions. "player interactions" in most cases means PvP. This is a PvP game the devs don't want high sec to be some ultra safe haven where players can spend years soloing somewhat challenging PvE content. If you want that kind of gameplay then you can play pretty much every other MMO out there. I'm not knocking those other MMOs mind you I've played them and enjoyed them I'm just saying that in the world of MMOs where every other game is trying to be like the one game that did really well once, that Eve being older than the unmentionable MMO has been doing it's own thing for longer.

Eve is different and probably the reason that I keep coming back to it is because it's not the same as every other MMO out there. Please stop trying to turn Eve into those other MMOs. I like having some choice and variety.