Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Moving probes around the map and moving the map is still a little clunky.

If probing the next system, have a easier way of moving the probes over to it. Trying to realign a set of probes over to another system in a 3D map is annoying at best

Alright so first of all, thank you for the work done so far, the new starmap is definitely an improvement compared to the old one, and it looks good, the ability to have it as a separate window or to dock it is pure gold, so good job!

That being said, I need to point out a few things that you should really look into:

• Zoom animations! When zooming in and out, there is a notable inertia that is much less pronounced in the old map. I know that you want things to feel smooth, but in practice its horrible to be unable to click on anything for 1 full second after every zoom, because stars are still moving a bit. Its even worse when going from starmap to system map, as the camera stops moving a full 2 seconds after the last scroll-wheel input. Sorry but its highly annoying.
• I disagree with the color scheme of most filters. Lets take "jumps in the last hour" for instance. It starts as almost white, and ends dark orange. The problem is, the golden color that is representing the middle of the range is much more attractive to the eye than the dark orange one. See example as opposed to incursions, where the lighter color means more importance. Which is what you should do for all things. Just like in the old map where things are bright when stuff happens. Don't flip the color code like that please .
• Same for the color of "my assets". It stays dark orange regardless of the amount of assets you got, as only the "circle" grows to indicate the number of items. If you choose to pick only one color for a filter, it should be a bright one! :)
• Where are the options to color the lines? I like to be able to see region lines, I like to be able to see green lines that indicate space owned by a blue alliance. (they could even be colored in blue/dark blue/orange/red to match standing colors)
• I hope most of the probing stuff is still work in progress, as there is almost no indication when scanning: No color, no circle, no sphere... Estimated anomaly position is black which is too hard to see.
• In the system view, the stacking of celestials is bad. Just allow us to zoom more (and don't forget to reduce the zoom inertia!). In the old map, there is no stacking and its much more readable.

Thanks for reading my frenglish, and keep up the good work!

Map annotation.

It would be cool if we could annotate the map while in a fleet. I'd want to set access levels to those annotations as well. share with the whole fleet, just to WCs, or to a certain group of players or my watchlist.

feature request:
- button to link the camera on the map with the ship camera. Will make the map rotate to the things you are actually looking at, and vise versa

would be nice if you guys improved wormhole space functionality in the map. I know we're not 'supposed' to be able to see the systems around us but come on, we're in a sci-fi universe and we have telescopes.

wow, i never realized how many bookmarks i had until they showed on the map.

btw, the bookmarks still show the specific location even when stars are grouped by constellation/region. Intended or no?

The inertia mentioned by Altrue is the single most annoying thing on the map. It is utterly inconvenient, it serves no practical purpose whatsoever except for irritating me when ever I open the map and it makes the map navigation an immensely cumbersome, straining and unappealing chore - not an experience, not an activity, an irritating chore.
Oh, this inertia is particularly frustrating when I probe scan things. This utterly slowly fading zoom hinders the proper scanning, panning and zooming necessary to probe stuff.

Furthermore, I find it irritating that the drop down menus close when I move my mouse out of the menu area, for instance, to check some stats. I then have to go back to the top, extend the menu again, scroll again and repeat the checking steps. This is also utterly irritating and impractical.

That locations in space are shown regardless of what other option I select can only be a bug; one that should not be there anymore given how old that feature is by now. Are there really people who want to see their locations in space constantly regardless what other information they seek and then have the locations, or any other of the things under the pin-drop-down, block the mouse from revealing the actually sought information?

When I launch my probes and click on the Formation button, the sphere of the signal disappears. I have to click on the signal again to make it show up again. This is also the case when I reduce the radius of the probe's scan range by drag and dropping the probe sphere.
Furthermore, the signal dot (when you got a successful scan on a signature and the huge ball/sphere reduces to the red dot) is black now.

The map is looking better and better by every update, great work!

Some things that I find that could be improved upon

* Ability to center on sun. You should totally add sun as an object that can be selected and focused on.
* Increase update frequency/FPS when in solar system view ( both for probes and your current location ) if possible. Kind of miss that part from the old map.
* Odd behaviour with probes when you have Abstract layer turned on (2D map), i.e. they are either oval or straight out flat.

Can't wait for next iteration on probing functionality.

Solar system map could be greatly improved. What I miss is that it feels kind of empty and lacks detail in comparison to the old solar system view. I really miss the ability to zoom in real close on a planet and see all the moons laid out and their orbits.

One thing that immediately put me off: the pan function is flawed in that the map has inertia and keeps moving after you've stopped dragging. This makes it extremely unsersponsive and unsuited for tasks that require accuracy of input like probing.

I cannot use it for my main need, which is exploration, while this remains unsolved.

EDIT: Also, the colors need fixing, I kept losing track of the signature as it's easy to confuse with the background

Going to reiterate what others have said regarding D-scanning with the new map, which is to say you can't.

I literally use the old solar system view to do focused D-scans 99% of the time. The solid black background with white objects and red sigs allows me to parse information quickly and without distraction. The lack of nebulae, suns, and other bright clutter allows me to easily see what I'm doing. Those, and the tighter responsiveness of the camera in solar system view are all reasons why.

My request is that you do one of two things:

1) Give the map a "Fullscreen Mode" toggle which will cause it to go fullscreen and behave just like the old map does, including assuming control of the camera orientation.

2) Keep the map windowed, but add a "Use map camera for D-scan" toggle. When active the orientation on the map is used for D-scan, rather than your local on-grid camera.

I personally prefer option 1 because option 2 introduces the annoyance of forgetting you have the toggle on and with your map minimized you'll get crazy wrong results from your D-scan.