Warfare & Tactics

Small gang PVP is not dead but due to the current meta in Eve very difficult to find anything to actually engage without getting ganked/hot-dropped or just plain blue balled (until the blob arrives)

IMHO this game has moved from a fun PVP game that catered for the small gang/solo pilots,more towards big fleets of no-skill retards smack talking you in local because they have "friends" and where able to ROFLSTOMP your entire fleet with triple your numbers. Try and kite, the entire fleet hugs the gate and only engages when logi is on grid and you cant kill anything. Dont even bother brawling...you will die in a fire. Try solo and most people run....until they can blob the f**k out of you. Try small gang...bring in the neut geddons and falcons for a 5 man Hac/T1 cruiser gang.

I am sure all the stories about the amazing small gang action out there will come streaming in now, along with some flaming of my post.

And no you cant have my stuff.

It is a shame, perhaps something could be done about it. There seems to be plenty of people wanting to solo and/or small gang fight. I know it isnt ideal as it seems "staged" but there has to be a region or two that is pretty dead from other activity perhaps those could be the hunting grounds for people wanting that kind of action, like Providence has set itself up to be welcoming to neuts and a NRDS environement.

I dont know enough about the different regions to know which would be suitable or even if that is a valid option

Interesting.

If small gang is hard but doable then solo is harder and even less doable :D

They said it was not dead, just hard to find, and in my experience I have to agree with that.

Yeah I think that you may have it right to a degree,

I try to do things a little different in that I would jump in my ship (probably a T1 or T2 frigate) and wander the routes close to wherever I was living and would search for individuals wanting a fight, generally either by waiting on a gate or flying to anoms/belts etc.

I would look at intel to see where they are and head in that direction but they mostly are gone, or have died to someone else so I generally don’t get to see much, even if surrounded by blues the “red or neuts” in the areas were often in fleets and wouldn’t respond to a “solo” request and simply blap me out of the way before continuing.

I wouldn’t really call backup, because I would either have won (unlikely or be dead (more likely) by the time anyone arrived anyway even if I was only 1 system out from home base. but mainly because I was looking for solo fights. no off grid boosters either, just me, my ship and its fittings.

And that is what I am looking for, and finding hard to find, as I guess you are (from your comments) and from the others that have replied. I can see why really, because it is “rare” for people to solo (or micro gang) then when you are in someones territory they will get whoever is interested together in order to squash you. I cannot think of any group that would say “oh there is only 1 (or 4) of them) lets only take 4 people to the fight.

The corp I was with for years I left because I hoped to find solo fights (as I pretty much am on my own solo is better for me) but it is a very hard thing to find, you may find a solo fight but only after 10 times getting blobbed. And just for clarification I am thinking more null sec fights rather than high or low sec.

Another idea (again no idea if this is feasable) is to add to contacts all people that you know are interested in your type of combat, so for me solo, and then if you are in the mood for fighting you arrange an area (still large enough that you have to hunt) where to meet up and have fights, again though this may seem too structured rather than spontaneous

Already self destructed it all in a C5 so afraid not old bean.

Only remaining option: join Doomheim

I agree with you on that. The trend in wh space to bigger has bothered me for some time. There are some changes in the works that will further the large wh corps. Long story short, they can no longer support their numbers w/ the current wh mechanics so they are lobbying to get free bonus stuff for farming their statics. It will allow them to probably add another 100 guys to their numbers.

The small gang road warrior aspect of wh space is being blotted out by a few large corps. I will compliment 2 large wh groups (both of which have kicked my wh teeth in at various points over the years) for doing it right. SYJ just plain outgrew wh space. They moved to LS and I think to null now. They liked their group, realized wh space couldn't support what they wanted to do, so they went where they needed to go. The other is Hard Knocks. They got too big for home escallations to feed their numbers. They took a different approach. From what I hear they have banned pve in HK proper and set up alt bear corps in other wh to support their pvp. On one hand they are kind of creating a blue haze of affiliated wh, but on the other, they aren't trying to change wh space to fit their needs - they are adapting as needed to stay there.

It sux that you got stomped as you say. They came and you held the line so that batphoned, steam rolled you and left. It's a cruel game, but we both know that. Batphoning as the agressor who bit off more than they could chew isn't the way I would go, but obviously it wasn't me.

I hope you go with

"Rebuilding is fun!!!?!!?!"

For the record, I'm not arguing with you. I get what you're saying and recommending a break (go see how crappy the other games are). Over the years I've found it's the folks you know and the stuff you do w/ them that make the game pretty awesome. Not so much the actual thing your do, but more the process - if that makes any sense.

meh, it's not so cruel when you go to low-sec and base in an NPC station, undock for small-gang on demand and dock up to have a drink and talk smack whenever there's a 50-man blob lumbering through. I find it hard to sympathize with someone complaining about not getting small-gang action while basing from a large, lawless hole with high income potential, few (if any) protective mechanics and using cap ships for PvE. that's just begging to get roflstomped. it's like jumping in front of traffic for a laugh then trying to sue the driver that eventually hits you.

I don't see what's stopping all you solo/small gangers from fighting each other. Instead of taking your gang 50 jumps through sov null, just contact another small gang group, pick a system and ram your ships into each other all night long.