EVE New Citizens Q&A

Heya, made a post on here a little while ago about how I was a bit lost on what to do. You guys helped me a lot, but another problem I'm coming across is all the online Caracal fits I find are designed for people with 100 mil + isk, which I don't have. (Eg. All the builds propose Arbalast's, which are 20 mil a pop.) Anyways, rather than post here asking to be spoon fed, I thought I'd at least try to work it out on my own and at least "propose" a build of my own first. So here's what I've came up with.

High
4x Heavy Malukuth Missile Launcher I
1x Salvager
Med
1x Large Shield Extended II
2x Specific Damage Hardener
1x 10MN Afterburner I
1x Cap booster, med or heavy.
Low
2x Ballistic Control System II

This leaves me oh so slightly over power/cpu, but I believe I could fix that with upping my skills a bit.

I would be using this to run T2's.

So, thoughts, ideas? I expect I've made a scrub mistake, so don't be gentle. I GOTS TO LEARN YO.

(PS. I am using EFT)

When I run that setup it says "cap running out in xx mins".

How long is xx?

Edit: and switch of the salvager, you do not need to shoot and salvage at the same time.

7 minutes should be good enough for lvl 2 missions from my memory.

Also from memory, when i was doing them with a destroyer, the damage you take drops at 30and at 40 km i cannot remember taking damage from rats ( i used that instead of tanking - it was before the destroyers were buffed), means you can keep the hardeners switched off when you do not take damage to regain cap - if the fight should take longer.

Right, I've got a better idea of what to do now. Cheers for the help everyone. Now to just figure out what missions to run <3.

Also remember the in-game ship fitter calculates cap usage based on having all your mods running. You won't be permarunning a salvager or an afterburner.

Most people use Eve Fitting Tool, it's much better.

Salvager is for some extra money.

Go for the fifth missile launcher -- you'll finish missions faster that way. Then, after completing a mission (before flying away), bookmark a wreck, dock up, swap over to a Cormorant to salvage, fly back to mission site. Have 2-3 tractor beams, and 5-6 salvagers in the hi-slots, and optionally cargo expanders in the lows, and salvage tackles rigs.

Use the Cormorant until you can afford a Noctis.

edit -- and dammit, you beat me to it Liam

And Liam beat us both to it. There needs to be a better way to call primaries on the forums

CCP, MAKE IT SO!

Yeah, any of the destroyers will do a decent job salvaging. The advantage of the Catalyst - is that it has a drone. With your High Slots full of slavagers and tractors - that gives you something to defend yourself with in case any belt rats come to visit.

What I've found works well if I'm just working off one agent - is to run a number of missions, bookmarking the wreck fields as I go, then get in the salvager destroyer and warp around to harvest them all.

Wrecks and Jet Cans last 2 hours.

In your people and places - do a sort by Date - that will bring your most recent ones to the top.

Start with the one you did first - then work your way up the list until you've got them all.


Fitting wise - you can start off with 4 tractors and 4 salvagers. As your salvaging skill improves you can change that to 5 tractors and 3 salvagers.

Fit a AB and a cap recharger in your mids (unless your in a Coercer ... (which only has one mid)).

Watch your cap. Turn things off if you don't need them.

Train your Engineering/Energy skills.

Train your Navigation skills - as these mostly save cap either directly by using less to do something - or - by getting ti done faster.

If you're in control of the engagement - by Kiting the Rats using your AB - then you can plan out the wreck field.

One method is to create a wreck ball by orbiting something and letting the rats come to you, then kill them within 20km of your orbit point. Just warp to that orbit point and you won't have to move but just sit there tractoring and salvaging. Your problem with wreck balls like this is that you can get swarmed if you can't kill the rats fast enough.

An alternative to the small wreck ball, is to heard the rats in a large circle, gradually changing course as you kite them along. This produces a larger wreck ball.

Another is the wreck stream. Kite the Rats along behind you, then bookmark a wreck at one end or the other - warp to that - then proceed down the wreck stream pulling wrecks to you as you move towards them. When your skills are good enough - you can do it all under AB.




As to Caracal fits, one not mentioned here is the passive shield tank fit. I can't log in now to find it as the game is down but the idea is that you fit a bunch of Large Shield Extenders. The way shield recharging works - is that the shields will all charge in the same amount of time - no mater how big they are. So - the bigger they are - the more the shield will recharge. It's like getting a free shield booster that doesn't occupy a slot and uses no cap. You can also fit shield recharger rigs to enhance this process. This works better with an AML ship as if you put the HML's on they use a lot of PG and it's harder to fit those LSE's.


Now another thing you can do - is to have two fits. One with the Heavy Launchers and one with the AML's. Save them both in the fitting tool. On occasion - I've gone out in the AML fit - killed all the frigates in a target rich mission - then come back and killed all the cruisers with the HML fit. It's a toss up whether the time it takes to change fits is worth it though - but those heavy missiles will kill bigger ships faster.

*shrug*

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