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Does anybody mine moons?
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#21 - 2015-03-23 10:56:08 UTC  |  Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo
Nick Actilete wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
The best thing CCP will ever do is one day make moon mining a player activity instead of something that requires a pos. Or place moon materials in some kind of belts or rings and let people do it that way (a way that is then taxable so as to make null group income bottom up).


I do kinda feel like a "Moon Interaction" system would be nice, but POS'es generate content a lot of the time. I don't think we should remove anything that would take away possibilities for PvP, and alliances fighting over moons is one of them. The requirement of having a POS also means continuing being able to mine moons is a reward to those who can keep their POS safe

This guy knows what's up.

If you put moon mining in the hands of individuals it will tank the price of the mats, decreasing the incentive for alliances to fight over POS space. Let's not even discuss how disastrous removing it from moons altogether would be.

Nullsec has a few more reasons for large fights but in lowsec moons are the primary catalyst. I can't even recall the last time I was in a 50+ pilot a side fight in lowsec that wasn't over a moon.

There are all our dominion

Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
2Sonas1Cup
#22 - 2015-03-23 11:01:01 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
good luck


I will find you
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#23 - 2015-03-23 12:46:33 UTC
xavier zor2 wrote:
Have you ever tried it before, of investigated into it? Moon mining :)

I hear it is highly profitable Roll


only all of null sec, that's the main way the Blocs pay for their space aand all of those supers they lose.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-03-23 13:22:48 UTC
A group of 30 or so pilots can make a dent in certain regions. I bet if you had 10 dreads you could grab some moons in Khanid or Molden Heath and it would not be worth it to deploy against you. Plus I know much of Khanid is still "the dark region" in terms of moon goo, probably opportunities there.
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2015-03-23 13:53:20 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
The best thing CCP will ever do is one day make moon mining a player activity instead of something that requires a pos. Or place moon materials in some kind of belts or rings and let people do it that way (a way that is then taxable so as to make null group income bottom up).


It will probably happen in the long run. It's a necessary step to break large entities which is what they seem to be trying to do =x
Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
#26 - 2015-03-23 15:04:19 UTC
As they are doing away with POSes the whole picture is likely to change. You don't need an armada anymore to attack a moon mining POS. An entosis link will be sufficient. However, you can lose your drilling platform as easily.
Nick Actilete
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-03-23 16:04:31 UTC
Sequester Risalo wrote:
As they are doing away with POSes the whole picture is likely to change. You don't need an armada anymore to attack a moon mining POS. An entosis link will be sufficient. However, you can lose your drilling platform as easily.


They aren't "doing away" with poses, it's more like a redesign and change of anchoring requirements and mechanics. You can still place POS'es without having sovereignty over a system so the entosis link isn't changing anything about that.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#28 - 2015-03-23 16:51:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
You can anchor a siphon on moons to steal the goo. It will get found out sooner or later, but I've heard of people parking alts nearby to scoop every few hours.

Helpful resources.

http://evenews24.com/2014/06/19/all-fountain-moon-minerals-mapped-and-public/
http://www.dotlan.net/
https://goofinder.co.uk/
Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#29 - 2015-03-23 17:25:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Phig Neutron
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
You can anchor a siphon on moons to steal the goo.

Yeah, I've also done that. You don't even need to anchor the siphon yourself. Just set your d-scan to show siphons, and when you're flying around lowsec or nullsec be sure to scan for them. Use a cloaky ship to go bookmark the siphons, and you can make good money scooping the goo that someone else worked hard to steal.

Hint: there were a bunch of them in the EVE constellation last week.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2015-03-23 17:51:21 UTC
xavier zor2 wrote:
Have you ever tried it before, of investigated into it? Moon mining :)

I hear it is highly profitable Roll


Anything above R16 is taken by bigger alliances and corps, if by luck you find an empty moon, chances are it will be sieged and killed in days. Sov holders get notification when you anchor pos in their space.

As an independent person, your only chance is in low-sec or NPC null.

Even there, beware bigger entities. They like nothing better then getting a juicy 500mil pos kill + whatever fuel stront was in it. And everyone and their dog in null has a dread or super to drop on your POS.

So to mine you need 2 things - blue standings/understanding with dominant player, and empty location.

Anything to mine below R16 is a waste of time. R16 is okay, marginally. R32, you MIGHT find an empty moon in deep NPC null, MIGHT.

R64 is all alliances. No chance.

Best thing for you as a small independent player is to use siphons and steal moon goo instead. You wont hold on to the POS long enough to get profit.
Brylan Grey
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2015-03-24 03:48:33 UTC
People do mine moons. The ISK benefit from these sources is quite high and therefor very sought after.

Since they can be such good income, usually alliances make them a priority to go after to fund various alliance pvp activities. This makes sense. Since it takes an alliance to adequately hold a good number of moons, the isk generated should be used for alliance purposes such as SRP and buying members required ships etc.

The solo man's version of this is planetary interaction. The isk generated is no where near as high, but still a passive isk income that could offer aid to an individual.

In the end, it goes along the idea that eve is a social game. It takes groups of people working together to achieve great tasks.

If an individual can do everything in eve alone on one account... Why would anyone ever work together to do anything at all? There are games like that already, and they are so very lonely.
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#32 - 2015-03-24 03:49:24 UTC
Nope but I moon mines.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#33 - 2015-03-24 04:02:51 UTC
So one idea pitched for the new drill platform structure was that you could place it a a moon to moon mine, and as it did it would spit out chunks that could then be mined by people. As it slow transitioned, eventually it would just spit out all the chunks for people to mine. Now while this is an interesting idea, i think moon goo needs to go away from moons and into belts or some type of belt. It need to be actively mined.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
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