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Bye Bye AFK Cloaking

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#61 - 2015-03-23 00:16:22 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Gimme Sake wrote:
Cancel Align NOW wrote:
I think this idea goes hand in hand with the removal of local
Can't wait for local removal.
This is the most inane idea that people have latched onto for years. They remove local from Null Sec and I would just go to a Worm Hole

You get more ISK and they can't hot drop you there. Roll
This I feel is the biggest problem with this idea. Not just wormhole space, but the more risk averse (which is most) will simply move into highsec for isk generation even more. I think long term it would just lead to PvPers whining that nullsec is too empty (even moreso than they already do) because there's no ratters to prey on.

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d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#62 - 2015-03-23 00:23:23 UTC
Look at ALL the tears buahahahahaha

#bancloaking
#jokesonyou

Am I doing it right? Funny like half the whinners here are the same people laughing at carrier/supercarrier pilots that voiced concerns about all the nerfs, but how dare they away my OP cloak now!

Been around since the beginning.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#63 - 2015-03-23 00:25:24 UTC
Kenneth Feld wrote:
During the Sat morning event, Yitterbum made it sound like you could manually "pulse" the module like once an hour and it would decloak everything in system. he made it seem liek manual so you couldn't time it or anything.

Then you had to probe stuff down manually

If the cloaker is truly afk, easy kill, if they are not afk, they can cloak back up after the 30 sec timer


This is specifically why the potential change is great. It makes afk cloakers vulnerable, and active ones are just fine. The whole nonsense people are saying about how it should happen at the same period every hour or 3 hours or whatever is just silly, as it would allow the afk a simple easy method of dodging the effect.
Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2015-03-23 03:48:27 UTC
They should remove local from null sec the same patch they release the thingamabob that detects cloaked ships.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#65 - 2015-03-23 04:14:27 UTC
Anything that prevents someone from being TRULY AFK while cloaking is a good thing.

After all, there is an entire horde of people who have taken it on themselves to gank anybody hauling AFK with AP.

Therefore on that same line, why do people think they have the right to be totally safe while AFK?

It's about time a balancing mechanic was introduced.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#66 - 2015-03-23 06:19:13 UTC
[Serious] ELI5: What's "AFK cloaking" and why is it a problem?

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Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#67 - 2015-03-23 06:30:59 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Anything that prevents someone from being TRULY AFK while cloaking is a good thing.

After all, there is an entire horde of people who have taken it on themselves to gank anybody hauling AFK with AP.

Therefore on that same line, why do people think they have the right to be totally safe while AFK?

It's about time a balancing mechanic was introduced.



Could not have worded it better.....

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Josef Djugashvilis
#68 - 2015-03-23 09:25:37 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
AFK cloaking should be nerfed just as soon as someone can show how an afk cloaker can hurt anyone.

Pretending you don't understand the problem doesn't make the problem go away. Its like saying hibernating bears are not dangerous because they're hibernating. ******** point of view to take isn't it.


The title of the thread is to do with afk cloaking.

My argument stands.

Pretending that an afk cloaker is a problem is nonsense.

afk cannot harm anyone.

Player is at the keyboard in a cloaked ship, valid style of gameplay.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#69 - 2015-03-23 09:30:49 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
AFK cloaking should be nerfed just as soon as someone can show how an afk cloaker can hurt anyone.

Pretending you don't understand the problem doesn't make the problem go away. Its like saying hibernating bears are not dangerous because they're hibernating. ******** point of view to take isn't it.


The title of the thread is to do with afk cloaking.

My argument stands.

Pretending that an afk cloaker is a problem is nonsense.

afk cannot harm anyone.

Player is at the keyboard in a cloaked ship, valid style of gameplay.


Never before have I agreed with you, and I doubt I ever shall again, but you are correct on this one.

That said, I think the premature celebraculation in this thread is going to be let down pretty hard once the devblog for this actually releases. They're counting their chickens before they even have any eggs, and that never ends well.

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#70 - 2015-03-23 09:40:11 UTC
Nat Silverguard wrote:
[Serious] ELI5: What's "AFK cloaking" and why is it a problem?


Serious?

AFK: away from keyboard.
AFK Cloaking: sitting in a system cloaked while being away from keyboard.

A serious problem for risk adverse nul sec care bears who are afraid that the person who is not actively there may shoot them (oh noes! Someone cloaked in my system, I'm too scared to undock). Lol
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#71 - 2015-03-23 11:27:36 UTC
observatories can't see what's invisible

can your eyes see microscopic germs?

don't be silly
Amber Kurvora
#72 - 2015-03-23 11:38:04 UTC
I really want to know more about the mechanics they intend to use for this. I occasionally week trip into Null to run exploration sites, which carries enough risk with Null Alliance intel channels, and would hate to find out that cloaking up to ride out gank attempts would suddenly not be an option.
Demica Diaz
SE-1
#73 - 2015-03-23 11:45:45 UTC
Has anyone actually lost something to AFK cloakers?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#74 - 2015-03-23 12:20:59 UTC
Demica Diaz wrote:
Has anyone actually lost something to AFK cloakers?


Their self respect?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#75 - 2015-03-23 12:21:33 UTC
Amber Kurvora wrote:
I really want to know more about the mechanics they intend to use for this. I occasionally week trip into Null to run exploration sites, which carries enough risk with Null Alliance intel channels, and would hate to find out that cloaking up to ride out gank attempts would suddenly not be an option.


it means you would just have to keep moving, meaning you couldnt just sit in the same place for for 4 hours watching things

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#76 - 2015-03-23 12:22:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Demica Diaz wrote:
Has anyone actually lost something to AFK cloakers?


Their self respect?


Negative, you can't lose what you don't have Twisted
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#77 - 2015-03-23 12:31:52 UTC
Omg the person who wasn't there two hours ago is still not there right now!

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2015-03-23 12:34:12 UTC
Long live Schrödinger's Hotdropper

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Josef Djugashvilis
#79 - 2015-03-23 13:44:05 UTC
Demica Diaz wrote:
Has anyone actually lost something to AFK cloakers?


Balls.

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DeadDuck
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#80 - 2015-03-23 13:52:35 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Player is at the keyboard in a cloaked ship, valid style of gameplay.


It is, so the detection array should not be a problem to him either, since he can pretty much react to an incoming threat.