Ships & Modules

Hi there,

Just throwing this out to see what people's thoughts are and what they currently find effective. I'm looking for some suggestions for Amarr ships that are suitable for solo PvP in lower level wormholes and that can take on combat site runners. I was thinking NOmen, Abso or Legion. Are these viable for a spot of PvE ganking? Too shiny?

Great, I'll have a look at the Stratios option. Can they take on T3's ok? Would you recommend guns or drone mods?

For amarr pilgrims and curses do this well too, the Curse is twice the ship the pilgrim is and in WH's the cloak is not so necessary when you don't show up on d-scan and there is no local.

What about combat probes? If you use them they turn up on D-scan and spook the locals, and its very rare they will be using them.

Curse's have the added advantage of amazing neuts....

Strat is good... but not the end all

OP asks for a ship that can engage a single target whitout any risk to himself (specifically mentions ganking PVE ships)

Is this what Eve has become, a bunch of no skill, no honour players looking to stroke their epeen over ganks.

When I fall down the stairs drunk I dont call myself a stuntman, you people should not see what you are doing as anything more than PVE.

Nope.

Your argument carries all the weight of an anoerexic rizla.

rookie ships at dawn with neut logi

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Kill explorers for fat juicy loot....Call it whatever you like...PVP, PVE or ganking......doesnt matter.

Says the F1 monkey?



Bob favours the bold.

There's a big difference between deciding to engage something knowing that it could be a trap but having a plan in case one of his buddies decloaks beside you, and being too afraid to ever engage anything because you're too paranoid of everything being a trap.

Speed and aggression. That is how solo in WH's is done. In my experience If you have half a brain traps aren't very common. Yes, I have run into the occasional trap right out the gate but most of the time, the guys i'm camping only begin to bother setting up traps after i've hit them a third or fourth time.

I use a buffer fit Proteus with 4 Neutrons, 100m3 drone bay, cloak and a probe launcher. It's a full T2/Meta 4 fit except for a Sisters expanded launcher and the cheapest 3-point scram you can get (150 mil I think.) I get somewhere in the neighborhood of 450 dps heated and so far I've found it sufficient for killing whatever I find. I'm kinda wary of engaging site running T3's due to the fact that they fit crazy tanks and the time it takes to kill one solo would open up a large window of opportunity for him to start screaming on comms for help, but i've shot at a bunch of other stuff and the Prot has done pretty well.

In my experience if you're picking your targets right, you'll rarely, if ever, have to deal with enemy neuts. I fly a buffer fit and have yet to try out an active tank but I don't see why it wouldn't work, unless the active tank subs gimp dps.

If you are on the field long enough for enemy backup to arrive, you're doing it wrong.
If you engage a target that has neuts, you're doing it wrong.

With those considerations in mind, an active tank should work fine.
I would avoid anything that doesn't fit a cov ops cloak unless it's being flown by an alt.
With the range boost to neuts, Pilgrim is practically as good for solo these days as the Curse is.

My final suggestion would be to go as cheap (While still maintaining effectiveness) as possible. Blinged out T3's are for small and large gangs where your individual mistakes don't potentially mean mean certain death. I rarely lose my ships in WH's but when I do, it's almost always to a blob (Read: Either falling for a trap or getting blobbed on a WH after jumping through it.) In such cases as a 1v5 fight against other T3's, an expensive fit or pod won't save you. May as well put the extra isk into your next replacement ship and keep your losses low. You will lose both your ship and your pod eventually.

Options 1 and 2 are very close IMO

1. Proteus
2. Stratios or Pilgrim (Whatever is more convenient/cheaper)
3. Tengu or Loki
4. Legion (Abysmal dps with cloaky sub, limited to em/therm dps)

I would probably take the Astero for killing barges and defenseless pve'ers only, but honestly i've never flown one so I can't really say for sure.

Edit: I forgot to mention that with the Astero your primary targets will be industrials, and if that's the case you may as well just fly a Stealth Bomber for higher dps against larger targets. Even better, you can lose 3 bombers for every 1 Astero.

To clarify, I was not saying you should never decloak, rather that if you assume you're going into a trap you won't be surprised if/when it actually turns out to be one and if/when it doesn't then you'll be pleasantly surprised and delighted with your KM as you go off in search of more unwitting tributes to Bob.