Player Features and Ideas Discussion

because integrating games has worked so well in the past...

Depends how it is done.

Their server and ours could basically relay bottom line results to each other.

I have to wonder if there could be an atmospheric combat mode to Valkyrie since we will never see them in space. Environments are helpful for creating a visual sense of parallax. Space environments will probably cause less eye strain, and possibly even less vertigo or VR sickness.

Has CCP said anything about an ingame economy or fittings in their flight sim?

Knowing that they won't be the same engine anytime sooner than Skynet comes to judge us all, what sort of link would you like to see between Valkyrie and Legion, or Valkyrie and EVE?

Relativity.
They manually press "fire" that is slower than we auto fire our rounds.
They can move at a different scale of speed so they would take as long as a drone to orbit us.
(While it feels fast moving to them - like how a Go Cart isn't going particulary fast but because you are close to the ground or in their case close to what seems a huge ship it feels faster)

I think dust and Valkyrie would make a epic platform for industrial pvp. For the first time we could have re-swpan timers that are effected in real time by other players. Clones ships and mods could all be built in real time in eve and given to the games. Think about how complicated (in the best eve sort of way) it would be if you had to get supply's to say a rorqual that was in system so your FW npc carrier could restock fighters so your dust players could board and take over a enemy research outpost.
I am going to start a new topic about the option real time patching/patching on demand could take us to "micro dev" events here soon but I personally love planetary bombardment; I love eve for the layers on top of layers that goes in being a player. I think if we have eve players a way to create incentives and rewards for dust players and dust players to create timers and fights for eve players we would see more players in both. A lot of the best content in eve is from around objectives. I think that games like dust and Valkyrie give us the chance to create more of that kind of play. I love to run an "incursion" where bomber waves where spawned or not spawned based on on how well Valkyrie players did? that would not be hard to get both games to interact at almost the same speed. think about some of the 9/10 complexes where your taking out stations that would be another place where maybe you could have valkerie players take out guns on the station so your ships take less damage. or what about assault style missions being put in like some of the star wars games where to unlock the next gate you have to have fighters escort a dust barge so that dust players could take over the gate control room. something like that a single person could play all 3 parts and each one could get rewards at the end.

or even now look at how the new sov system is being set up with this tug of war why not let dust and Valkyrie also add or take away points even up to an even amount maybe to an even higher amount but to do so you have to have a carrier deployed at a target and while that 5 min sov take over mod is running it creates a mission contract for the other players to join in on. that would be easy to sync up

How about not integrating anything.

You're all looking at this the wrong way.

There is a difference between integrating Valkyrie into EVE and integrating EVE into Valkyrie.

The former would be impossible due to the slower server ticks and other issues mentioned already. But the latter has no technical obstacles. You'd simply be flying a huge, slow, clunky, and largely auto-piloted ship around inside a twitch flight-simulator.

That said, I'm not pushing for integration. It may be possible someday; but it'd have to be done VERY carefully so as to not break the gameplay of both.

Or are to talking about having Valkyrie over there and EVE over here, and have them somehow exchange data to affect what'd happens in each other? That would be a moot point because it'd be goofy to try to integrated them in that way. That isn't how a merger of the two game universes would be approached.

i would much much rather all games maintain Independence that way their designers are not limited or restrained by one another can can focus on making a great game not a mess of a gimmick.



look at dust and eve CCP promised so much with that but all that came from it was a lack luster FPS and an annoying modifier to FW that players in eve and dust had very little real control over.

TiDi is not common across the whole of EVE.

It still holds a lot of potential. WiS, talk with them, deploy them to a planet to fight over PI stuff.
Send them into a structure to disrupt something and make it less effective.

There are so many ways we can send Dust players off to produce a result in their server that then comes back to alter ours.

I'd love to see this happen but at present I just don't think that its currently possible given the way Valkyrie and EvE do things. Give Moore's Law a few more years and it could of course be a different story though.