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Nestor Battleship and the CSM X opinion

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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#1 - 2015-03-20 21:21:23 UTC
o/ CSM X members,

Congratulations on those that made it into CSM X, a new frontier for 7 new members (Sort Dragon was CSM 8)
It's nice to see so many incumbents return, including some very hard workers e.g. Sugar Kyle, Steve Ronuken Cool


We recently saw a graph from fanfest that showed the use of the Nestor Battleship in PvP damage.

Sure you can get 1.4k dps out of it with a 110k EHP tank, but at a price of about 6,3 billion isk.
source: https://o.smium.org/loadout/14231

But what would you as a CSM X member like to see changed with the Nestor battleship ?

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Chance Ravinne
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#2 - 2015-03-21 05:24:56 UTC
Freelancer117 wrote:
o/ CSM X members,

Congratulations on those that made it into CSM X, a new frontier for 7 new members (Sort Dragon was CSM 8)
It's nice to see so many incumbents return, including some very hard workers e.g. Sugar Kyle, Steve Ronuken Cool


We recently saw a graph from fanfest that showed the use of the Nestor Battleship in PvP damage.

Sure you can get 1.4k dps out of it with a 110k EHP tank, but at a price of about 6,3 billion isk.
source: https://o.smium.org/loadout/14231

But what would you as a CSM X member like to see changed with the Nestor battleship ?

Regards, a Freelancer


As a fan of the SOE ships, my problem with the Nestor is that it simply doesn't feel like it fits into what the Astero and Stratios are supposed to be. It's loaded with seemingly random bonuses, including ones that just don't make sense on a battleship. I'm sorry but you're not hacking cans in a Nestor except as ridiculous bait.

I'd like to see the Nestor aligned to a specific purpose, still loosely tied to the things the other SOE ships lean on:

  • Exploration
  • Cloaky shenanigans
  • Drones and lasers
  • Agility and flexibility


Perhaps if you looked at it this way:
The Astero is a ship that's made for noncombat exporation.
The Stratios is a ship that's made for combat and noncombat exploration.
The Nestor is a ship that's made for _______________ ?

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#3 - 2015-03-21 19:54:20 UTC
Chance Ravinne wrote:
Freelancer117 wrote:
o/ CSM X members,

Congratulations on those that made it into CSM X, a new frontier for 7 new members (Sort Dragon was CSM 8)
It's nice to see so many incumbents return, including some very hard workers e.g. Sugar Kyle, Steve Ronuken Cool


We recently saw a graph from fanfest that showed the use of the Nestor Battleship in PvP damage.

Sure you can get 1.4k dps out of it with a 110k EHP tank, but at a price of about 6,3 billion isk.
source: https://o.smium.org/loadout/14231

But what would you as a CSM X member like to see changed with the Nestor battleship ?

Regards, a Freelancer


As a fan of the SOE ships, my problem with the Nestor is that it simply doesn't feel like it fits into what the Astero and Stratios are supposed to be. It's loaded with seemingly random bonuses, including ones that just don't make sense on a battleship. I'm sorry but you're not hacking cans in a Nestor except as ridiculous bait.

I'd like to see the Nestor aligned to a specific purpose, still loosely tied to the things the other SOE ships lean on:

  • Exploration
  • Cloaky shenanigans
  • Drones and lasers
  • Agility and flexibility


Perhaps if you looked at it this way:
The Astero is a ship that's made for noncombat exporation.
The Stratios is a ship that's made for combat and noncombat exploration.
The Nestor is a ship that's made for _______________ ?



Support of the other two, in larger fleets?

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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#4 - 2015-03-21 20:30:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Freelancer117
Chance Ravinne wrote:

I'd like to see the Nestor aligned to a specific purpose, still loosely tied to the things the other SOE ships lean on:

  • Exploration
  • Cloaky shenanigans
  • Drones and lasers
  • Agility and flexibility


Perhaps if you looked at it this way:
The Astero is a ship that's made for noncombat exporation.
The Stratios is a ship that's made for combat and noncombat exploration.
The Nestor is a ship that's made for _______________ ?


The Nestor currently has these bonuses:

Gallente Battleship bonuses (per skill level):
10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage
Amarr Battleship bonuses (per skill level):
4% bonus to all armor resistances
Role Bonus:
50% bonus to Large Energy Turret optimal range
50% bonus to Core and Combat Scanner Probe strength
10+ bonus to Relic and Data Analyzer virus strength
50% bonus to Remote Armor Repairer amount
200% bonus to Remote Armor Repairer range

I would love to see SOE a little bit more tied into the Serpentis because of the lore background.

Santimona Sarpati is the Reverend Mother[1] and CEO of the [[Sisters of EVE|Sisters of EVE]]. Santimona is the sibling of Salvador Sarpati the current leader and CEO of the Serpentis Corporation. Once a close friend and ally of Silphy en Diabel, Santimona has now turned her back on her and mockingly calls her Queen Silphy of the syndicate.
Source: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Sarpati_Family_%28Chronicle%29

To give SOE a bit more of a Pirate faction feel to it, specially after they duped capsuleers into scanning WH's for them.
source: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/ante/

Perhaps there is a way to alter the combat role bonus ? Cool

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Diemos Hiaraki
Septentrion
#5 - 2015-03-21 20:42:30 UTC
In a combat role the Astero and Stratios are great in fleet or solo; they are very strong ships. The Nestor has a unique roles within the battleship class and that makes it a good ship; it does what it does well but it's expensive atm and that makes it a little too risky to fly exclusively as a damage platform. The Nestor has other benefits to a fleet which don't involve damage, and for me that's where it excels and fits within the lore of SoE perfectly. For me the SoE ships are all awesome in their own way, it's just the pirate faction battleships tend to be more focused than their smaller counterparts. For me at least the Nestor is more of a logistics ship than anything else.
Cora Namoor
Anson Astrometrics And Assembly
#6 - 2015-03-22 15:52:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Cora Namoor
A couple of ideas for alternate bonuses.
To better support the others maybe... A direction scanner disabler. Works into the new gameplay mechanics for Combat BC's and the WIP SOV structures coming out. Maybe an AoE version to shield allies or structures from direction scans. Still can be found with probes but you have to be looking for it.
Possible new probe type that surrounds an area, even gates,pos, and stations. The probes detect warp trajectories but not distance or speed and create 2-3 bookmarks that give you a straight line that can be shared to other ppl. Gives you Intel so you can scan ppl out who are in areas not seen by direction scanners. Really useful if the new game mechanics let you place stuff anywhere. Who's gonna think to look 5au out from every orbital body if you don't have Intel like this? Still can be worked around... Warp from station to planet 1, then to pos on moon 6 of said planet, then a few safe-spots, then to hidden pos. Change safe spots every so often and your good.
Your working on a new map. Is there a new solar map coming up? Could we get real time scanning info on said map with movement? Maybe only so many larger fleet ships or structures have said realtime linked sensor webs maybe the Nestor is the only subcap to get said ability?

Lastly I don't think the Nestor should have Covops cause then it's just a gimped BlackOps. A pirate faction blop would be too OP on the lvl of a tourny prize ship.