Crime & Punishment

Also,
If you are talking about my last couple losses...

Look who killed me and with what. Those guys in Dodixie schooled me on bump gangs... And I lost a phoon to a bhaalgorn.

I'm not ashamed. If you aren't losing ships, you're not trying. I shouldn't have picked a fight with the Dodixie pvp collective.

As you mentioned you post on battleclinic which doesn't state the loss of your jaguar so I would rather believe zkillboard even without the loss of that typhoon cause people are more prone to somehow forget to post their deaths than to forget about posting their kills, in any way battleclinic doesn't have your jag loss while zkb doesn't have your typhoon loss, doesn't even matter that much at all. My main point was never to discuss of how good of a pilot you were but it was just a footnote that explained some of your views regarding high sec "pvp".

I don't hate you at all, do I think highly of you, no, but hate, that's not at all what I feel about you, or as you put it people like you... Why do you think if someone disagrees with you they must hate you? Even if someone does hate you by disagreeing with you does that thought that you are being hatted for something you said or done make you feel all warm and tingly inside? Alas I have to disappoint you there, however you have my permission to think that I hate you so you can get your jitters up.

As I said, high sec is fine the way it is when it comes to forcing people to pvp when they do not want, wish, aren't prepared, and so on for it, however people are not safe, can they be killed, yes, are they getting killed, yes, so all your views about high sec being safe is false. Crime watch if anything shouldn't allow neutral logistics, but that single change would ruin the day of all the leet pvpers, such as suspect baiters and can flippers and so on more than any other player, or if anything still waiting for the day where logi love is being included into killmails so all those solo kills will be solo kills.

As this post has shown there are not a lot of people that think like you, not even enough to form a small gang you would so easily lead into fame. Other people smarter than me stated and posted suggesting you more than few ways of achieving what you are saying isn't available in high sec. Gather people that have the same opinion as you and are not afraid of leaving high sec to go to low sec, after the delay or removal of local in null sec, to thera space or wormhole space. You have wast options on where to go to achieve what you and your guys wish without being selfish enough to ask and promote the change of space where new bro's spawn and learn on that narrow view they are given when they 1st open their eyes in New Eden. And in all honesty you guys should be having more fun there. I for one compare killing people that don't want to pvp by tricking them into it as when a, using WoW as reference cause its better known, maxed level toon coming to low level areas and killing people, guards, vendors and so on and so forth to disrupt their game and take out their own inability to stand on par with people of his own level as an equal. If that is what a true pvp-er does than I wouldn't want to ever be one.

Forever best wishes in finding your way

Capt Seph

go to nullsec...highsec is not designed to allow easy PvP, and quite rightly allows its residents to focus on PvE and wealth accumulation. No one is forcing you to live in it, so if you want a different playstyle, go somewhere else.

Veers, you make more sense when you take those nuts out of your mouth. Some of us actually like pvp in highsec.
Just because you do not like it does not mean that it is any less a valid form of gameplay.

I advise selling the raven, purchasing a harpy, and erasing the post above immediately.

It has different effects on different people. For me, being roflstomped by break a wish motivated me to learn the real game. For others, it means they uninstall and go back k to wow.

Danalee,

While Leto got his induction from BreakAWish, it was the Somali Coastguard Authority who christened me.

They broke my noob ships like Belushi smashed that guitar in Animal House.

I had a moment of pause when I saw your corp name. I thought perhaps EYL was riding again.

Those really were the good old days.

High Sec may be a starting and learning area, but part of this game is learning to cope with loss. Get used to it. Because high sec is nothing compared to the loss you'll experience in null sec. If you think losing a single mining barge is expensive, wait til your FC and alliance leaders tell you to get about 5 to 6 battleships up fully fitted and ready to go for CTAs. Sorry but people who whine about barge losses as if it's some great travesty against mankind have clearly never played EVE. Again there's that learning issue.

ETA: I forget who the hell made the long post and I'm too lazy to go look up the name so this is directed at them.

Nothing changed from then except new people are now bit more protected from their own inexperience and tad harder to bait in into situation of their certain demise. The thing you are missing is that most new players might even want to PvP however their 1st priority at start is to learn the mechanics of the game and find a fastest route to pay the game with isk. Also some people don't want to PvP with ships at all, they like the game for some other aspects, mining, manufacturing, research, exploration, market manipulation, spying, banking and all other countless possibilities that eve offers. In any of those directions I mentioned they are doing PvP in their own manner, getting earlier to outmine some other player miner or hiring mercs to chase them away, manufacturing and eventually selling the item on market fighting other industry people so they could get highest profit for their work, research fighting with other players for the price and or bps, exploration with other players over sites, market manipulation again with players that are doing the same thing. All that in relative safety that high sec offers. So why are you being so selfish in asking CCP to make it easier for you to shoot people that have no interest into shooting back or shooting at all?? You yourself said that for the 1st years of your eve life you dodged wars, switched corps to avoid "PvP", and now when you think you learned enough you want CCP to make it easier for you to pick on the people that are doing the same thing you yourself did.

For Dsparil

I never said that high sec should become a place where people are invulnerable, not once, I said that it is dangerous enough as it is and that people who know how to use it and don't mind going the extra distance can easily find "pvp". I said that it shouldn't be made easier for more experienced players to pick on the less experienced and knowledgeable that are not even prepared for PvP and easily thrown into an always bad situation for them. High sec should remain the learning space.

For people that want to do real PvP they should do so through war decs so they themselves can always be targeted, both when they are and they are not prepared, or better yet go to low, null, thera or wh space where they are again a valid target the whole time.

Are you really comparing yourself who is living in null space with high enough sp and are able to hoard in enough isk quite easily being in alliances and coalitions that have SRP programs that replace each and every lost ship in an authorized FC lead battle and a newbie of a week, two, month, 3 months and their ability and knowledge on how to gather isk. Killing that one retriever a person mined for in a venture took days and days of mining hits much harder for that single person than you losing then given back those 5-6 battleships which are probably T1 with T2 fits so you need like a day of farming to prep for that.

Hope you stay in null after the removal or delay of local hits.

Best regards

Capt Seph

Seph...

To my dismay, no mention of delayed local was made at any of the sessions I attended at fan fest.

The new fitting screen is awesome however....