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Jackdaw?!? Seriously?

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#21 - 2015-03-22 06:54:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Nikolai Lachance wrote:
Many Caldari ships are named after birds. A jackdaw is a bird. It fits fine.

Except "Shrike" sounds better.

"Shrike: Any of numerous usually largely gray or brownish oscine birds (family Laniidae) that have a hooked bill, feed chiefly on insects, and often impale their prey on thorns."

"Jackdraw: A common black and gray bird (Corvus monedula) of Eurasia and northern Africa that is related to but smaller than the carrion crow."

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#22 - 2015-03-22 07:23:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
And people think the Skynet is OP.. wait until they read what a single LAC carrier could do.. or a single Pod laying SD.... and no one cares that all the ships look like gray painted hammerhead spindles, because if youre close enough to see it, you are within energy weapon range and dead anyways.

If someone gave me a pod laying super dreadnaught and a couple of LAC carriers, I'd whelp them while laying siege to Polaris.

It would be glorious.

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#23 - 2015-03-22 07:40:14 UTC
Seriously? A name of the ship sucks thread? Looks like this neighborhood has gone to the dogs...uh, is for the birds.

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Kenneth Endashi
Kor-Azor Slave Holdings
#24 - 2015-03-22 08:01:30 UTC
Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow."
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#25 - 2015-03-22 09:15:51 UTC
It has to be the most repeated word on Reddit in the last 6 months. I blame that.
Shey Nabali
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2015-03-22 09:20:09 UTC
Kenneth Endashi wrote:
Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow."
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?



God DAMN you. Came here just to post this.

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Black Drake
#27 - 2015-03-22 09:22:39 UTC
But shrike sounds like shrek D: (especially with a scottish accent)

Then people will be all "Get Shrekt" when they kill someone in their shrek i mean shrike.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-03-22 09:23:33 UTC
Shey Nabali wrote:
Kenneth Endashi wrote:
Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow."
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
God DAMN you. Came here just to post this.
Hell yes. Let's confuse them with facts. It's a new strategy, I admit, but it just may work!

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2015-03-22 09:29:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Corvus monedula spermologus - that's a cool name, hopefully its shaped like a sperm.

Dickcissel would have been sweet too

I like this bird name too for a Tactical Destroyer - fits really well....BC -
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Specia1 K
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#30 - 2015-03-22 09:35:25 UTC
Bj Queeen wrote:
it kinda sounds like its something you should do by your self. Jackdawff


omfg...

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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#31 - 2015-03-22 09:36:18 UTC
Jackdaw isn't bad. At least they are capable of flight. Now Moa on the other hand.
Vyl Vit
#32 - 2015-03-22 09:48:21 UTC
"The common name jackdaw first appeared in the 16th century, and is thought to be a compound of the forename Jack, used in animal names to signify a small form (e.g. jack snipe), and the archaic native English word daw. Formerly, western jackdaws were simply called "daws". -Wiki-

Yes. Seriously. It's as good a name as any other in the game, and some numbskull with nothing better to do than to open a thread crying about it sure has generated a lot of bandwidth suckage. Before I take anyone seriously who has a problem with this name, I want to know what idiotic thing you've named your dog, or your cat - or your kid. Even then, the Great Digital God once again moans against the weight of the wasted bandwidth.

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Specia1 K
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#33 - 2015-03-22 10:04:38 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
"The common name jackdaw first appeared in the 16th century, and is thought to be a compound of the forename Jack, used in animal names to signify a small form (e.g. jack snipe), and the archaic native English word daw. Formerly, western jackdaws were simply called "daws". -Wiki-

Yes. Seriously. It's as good a name as any other in the game, and some numbskull with nothing better to do than to open a thread crying about it sure has generated a lot of bandwidth suckage. Before I take anyone seriously who has a problem with this name, I want to know what idiotic thing you've named your dog, or your cat - or your kid. Even then, the Great Digital God once again moans against the weight of the wasted bandwidth.


So you wasted more bandwidth to whine about me being a numbskull and wasting bandwidth?
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The Happy Meal
#34 - 2015-03-22 10:08:34 UTC
Sounds like a last name out of a hicktown in Arkansas.

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Erin Crawford
#35 - 2015-03-22 10:18:59 UTC
Rafial Embarda wrote:
Yeah agreed Jackdaw doesn't sound good at all. It doesn't even go along with all the other caldari ships..

I love your idea of " SHRIKE " That sounds amazing for a new caldari ship.

+1


yup!

+1 from me too to use the name Shrike instead of Jackdaw.

well, at least it's not called an A*s-stretch... umh... Ostrich! Roll

what about:

Drongo
Warbler
Barbet
Lark
Skua (aka Jaeger)

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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Dreamweb Industries
Novus Ordo.
#36 - 2015-03-22 10:20:45 UTC
It reminds me of the moment in Assassin's Creed IV when the protagonist named his ship Jackdaw, and people were all like "wtf, bro, that name sucks!" - So he said: "I don't care, lol" - and raped them wholesale.

We Russians have an aphorism of a sort: your yacht will sail the way you name it. Don't believe that crap. If your piloting sucks, you'll be blapped, and no fancy name will save you. Besides, Shrike sounds like a name more fit for a villain in a comic book.

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Benilopax
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2015-03-22 10:23:04 UTC
If you use Shrike now you can't have it for a more awesome ship later...

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#38 - 2015-03-22 10:27:07 UTC
Benilopax wrote:
If you use Shrike now you can't have it for a more awesome ship later...

Pretty sure we haven't reach the end of the spectrum with respect to bird names.

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Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#39 - 2015-03-22 12:10:06 UTC
Jackdaw is a excellent name for an EvE ship. At least the Jackdaw is a lot more intelligent than a lot of the other posters in this topic.
Kiddoomer
The Red Sequence
#40 - 2015-03-22 12:21:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiddoomer
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Jackdaw is a excellent name for an EvE ship. At least the Jackdaw is a lot more intelligent than a lot of the other posters in this topic.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Coloeus_monedula_-Ham_Common%2C_London_Borough_of_Richmond_upon_Thames%2C_England-8.jpg/1280px-Coloeus_monedula_-Ham_Common%2C_London_Borough_of_Richmond_upon_Thames%2C_England-8.jpg

It's quite cool, a bunch of Caldari ships already have birds name, so fits well to me.

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