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I snippet from the Round Table:

1. ) The Hull sould not be limited to sec status / wh. only the rigs for specalistation. (no supers for wh )
2. ) No AI would fire back. only player can fire back. currently they are looking for timezone and capture machanics at sov 5.0
3. ) L and XL will evently have simillar machanics like the new sov system
4. ) highsec etc. will be currently limited by usable rigs wich will be limiting the me/te boost etc. no size limit. also there will be a thukker rig for low sec capital producement.
5. ) If i heard it right. there will no race specific structures only meta or maybe t2 variations
6. ) They said the first set (assambly or sience or ... which is currently not selected) should hit TQ this year
7. ) After fan-fest good :) thanks

Now that´s the game i´ve been wanting to play! Good Job, put those on SiSi asap!

Looking at the proposed system, it looks exactly like the current system - completely the opposite of this statement.

Under the current system, only the 0.1% of corp members with *POS Roles* get ANY content WHATSOEVER. The other 99.9% get absolutely ZERO content as regards player-owned structures. Under the new system, it looks the same - POS Role players get all the content, POS Role players are the only ones that can drop/fit the new structures, POS Role players are the only ones that decide where and who manufacturing can occur ect.

And please dont say start your own corp and give yourself POS Roles (or whatever it is going to be called), if your not an established corp in an established alliance with the members to defend such structures, you will get rolled over into dust.

love what i'm seeing so far. need to spend a little time thinking some of the details over, but i really like the improvement goals driving the changes. this will have a big impact on industry both manufacturing and game play mechanics in general and i'm glad for this progress on that front, CCP. can't wait to see more, please keep the info coming.

edit: also looking forward to reading dev feedback to responses here.

you could have just edited your first post.

I love where this is going!

I would love to see stations that are building ships to have visual of what they are building. So if your building a carrier for instance it should show a carrier moored and under construction. Not sure if this is can be reasonably applied for sub-caps but I think for caps it would help provide more interesting game-play via spying on stations and launching an attack for instance when you see a titan under construction.

What about outpost upgrades?

Over all it sounds good, maybe a little over complicating something that doesn't need to be, but good anyway.

I have 5 questions/points to raise;

1) What becomes of the Anchoring & Starbase Defence skills ?
How will they be impacted by the changes.

2) Will faction standings have any bearing on the ability & bonus's to use the new structures in high sec ?




3) " In a similar manner, if you have permission from your corporation or alliance, nothing should prevent you to deploy a structure for your own personal use."
That right there is the key part.
Under the current system individuals are denied from having their own POS's ect unless they have both trained skills and are granted the roles, by their Corp CEO / Directors before hand, to be able to use these things or unless they form their own alt corp to be able to do so.
So,
What stops a Corp CEO or director in giving individuals roles, the individual gose buys/manufactures/ships these proposed structures and deploys them for the intent of personal use, only then for a Corp CEO or director, to simply remove the individuals roles and screw them over & take the structures for them selves ?
Thats not a fantasy senario, I have had it happen to me under the current system with POS's
Just sayin, that a players ability to use these things should not be governed by the corp management roles, if a player invests the time in training skills to use be able to make & manage these things, then the player should not be confined by corporation controls, but maybe corps / alliances could instead impose taxes.
That would help corps and alliances gain a source of alternate income whilst freeing up individuals to use be able to usethe structures outside of direct corp control via the role system.
Should a individual go against corp or alliance policy, the corp/alliance would still be able to see what and where the structure is thru the management window and take action to kill it or kick the individual.

4)
This sounds like a bad idea. Can totally see this being exploited by hell camps of stealth bombers.
Why not just relocate all assets to a NPC station ?.

5) I imagine these structures would still be required to have some sort of HP system tied to them, in order to be able to guage damage so they can be destroyed and also, so the defenders can repair them if they rebuff an attack.
How would this work and how will it be different from a structure grind?

These changes look awesome, but leave me with one concern on the XL deployables

Will XL structures decay? Because if they are meant to replace outposts (which they seem to be planned to do so) emptying it out and redeploying it would be a massive pain that brings their usefulness into question for staging.

Initial reply to the Dev blog/snippets from Fanfest.

AI MUST fire back; Can't stress this enough, if a player fits weapons to their structure they should always fire at attackers. Otherwise it's a 24/7 job to defend a structure, not a game. Players should be more effective. (Player skills apply perhaps to add damage/effects).

Fuel use only when doing things with services is a great idea, and will enable especially smaller high sec corps to make more use of structures. Which also puts more assets in space to be attacked in a Wardec meaning there is more reason for a corp to stay together rather than disband and make a new one.

Awesome concept work, would like to see a lot more fill in of the structure list in the medium size as well for small high sec corps to use, as currently most of them seem directed towards Null.