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on the stations destruction you were talking about only the owners being able too access the ships/assets from the wreck,
i would rather be able as the attacker too get some reward for my effort or whats the point?

- make them hackable like relic sites
- make the difficulty very high at least on the more valuable stuff and after 2 failed tries they lock so only the owner can access them.

... ask a friend who can... maybe?

watching the twitch and reading this sounds kind of like a cash grab.

we have to purchase new material while the old become obsolete?

existing structures / purchases can't be upgraded or transitioned into the new system?

for those purchases that have already been made and not deployed.. players are S.O.L?

A transition period is nice but, all said and done, it seems like scrap the old and buy the new.

Erm.. I did. But what I haven't seen explicitly said is whether the user that deploys the structure can be a solo player or indeed can't be. Just seeking a clarification.

Our current thinking is you cannot be in an NPC corp because you need to be able to declare war against the owner.

However we want people to be able to deploy personal use only towers from within any player corporation.

I'm confused. The entire Game of Drones team left CCP, has been working on a new MMO for a new publisher, and made the hugest screw-up possible by posting design notes on their old employer's (that would be CCP's) website?!?


I want to play GoD's new MMO. When's the beta?

This...makes me very sad in several ways.

I mean, I guess you can't please everyone, but I think you're missing some MAJOR player issues here and not realizing it. As always, my post might be a bit long, but I hope it adds something for you to maybe consider?

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The Good:

1) I like the new system having a lot more types of structures. This is pretty sweet. I see administration structures which seem like a combination POS/Station/TCU, a POCO/Station(Corp offices/cloning facilities), etc. I really think that's a cool idea since it's one of the cool things about the Deployables having so many types.

2) I also like that it looks like you want to give players the option to build truly massive and monumental structures.

3) The new fitting system seems kind of cool and intuitive, at least the High/Medium/Low slots. I'm not quite sure I understand the S slots - are you saying to upgrade some things we have to kill our ability to do other things? That sucks...but I'll get to more why in just a sec.

4) It looks like we might finally be able to get away from moons...like the NPCs have been doing for YEARS. If only we could gate the entrances making people have to fly there manually. :p

The Bad:

1) While the new system seems to be bringing more TYPES, it seems to be eliminating the GRANULARITY. See, under the system now, I would take POCOs and TCU/IHUBs and set them to the side of the equation scale. Each has a particularly defined and narrow function. What we really have to look at here are Deployables, POSes (Starbases), and Stations/Outposts. Right now, I can launch a Mobile Depot for myself (aggravatingly, I can't give friends a password so they can use it...), a Small POS for specialized missions or for a small/poor/fledgling Corporation, a Medium POS for more expansive capabilities and a well off Corp or even small Alliance, a Large POS for a small Alliance and for large scale projects, and there is some type advantages based on which Racial POS you go with. Finally, for medium sized Alliances, there are Outposts - for large Alliances, they just build several dozen.

...the new system seems to be discarding this granularity entirely. There will be MDs still, of course, but you seem to be getting rid of POSes, if I'm reading this right. You'll have some combination MD+X structures, MD+POCO, MD+Manufacturing, etc, but no more POSes. And in the place of POSes, everything will be HUGE. No more Small or Medium options. The size alone will be massive, with, again, no granularity. Likewise, you have Outposts...but again, just one size - HUGE.

Not everyone is overcompensating for something. Some of us like smaller things. And there's something cool about the POS shield and being able to sort of build your little town - the main issue with POSes is how little anyone other than Corp bosses gets to play with them.

But as a person who has an alt in a small Corp which is trying to set up our first (Small) POS, hearing that this is going away and all we'll have is massive structures with no shields and no ability to lay out the structures in 3-space to our liking...this is very, very saddening.

Worse, while the present system could do with a "Mega Outpost" for large Alliances to have some fun with, the Small/Medium/Large gameplay is nice. PLEASE keep this or integrate this in the new system in some way!!!!

2) To expand on 3) in the Good, sometimes, and this is particularly important for small Alliances, you need a small facility that will do a little of everything. Max specialization and efficiency isn't the goal, ability to cover all your bases is. Later on, as/if you grow, you can then put out more facilities ans specialize. Specialization leads to increased efficiency and economies of scale, but that's only something you CAN do once you've grown to that size.

...by removing the generalization ability of structures, you're kicking small groups in the shins and preventing them from being able to grow organically over time. It basically means that a small group will have to sit in High Sec for a lot longer trying to recruit up numbers, or join up with a big blue doughnut to get the numbers to get into the structure game. And, again, this is very very sad.

PLEASE reconsider here. I agree that specialization should (as it does now) add benefits. However, you shouldn't make it where people CAN'T be inefficient. Inefficient is necessary for small things that need to grow. Whether children, learning new things, or starting a new group - inefficiency is a necessary first step to grow into something that is more efficient and powerful later.

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Since it's easy to criticize but to execute you need ideas and suggestions, here are mine:

1) Having the ability to make supermassive things is cool - but don't overlook the builders in the sandbox that want to build a fort instead of a castle! Can you not leave in Small/Medium/Large POSes and possibly institute two types of Outposts? You can add in an X-Large POS if you really want something with that greater size (as well as adjust the structure sizes of the existing Large and Medium somewhat), and all existing Outposts would be the regular variety with the Super Outpost being an entirely new thing (complete with bragging rights when CFC or N3 build their first one). Balance and tuning and all that, but KEEP the granularity! It's a great thing, why break it when you can build/add TO it?

2) Reconsider the shields. Shields are pretty.

3) While making specialization more attractive is good, allow generalization (at much lower levels of efficiency) to stay in the game. Read the description of the Celestis sometime - there are a lot of small Corps and Alliances that need structures that meet that same goal. (I don't remember the exact wording, it's something like "Small Corporations who have limited resources like the Celestis because it's adaptable and relatively inexpensive.)

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Thanks for your time!

(Sorry for double post, even though I had 12 characters left, it said I was over the limit. XD)

Hope this feedback - positive, negative, and suggestions - can be useful.

i have waited years.... and... its finnaly almost here.. Q~Q