EVE General Discussion

It's pretty clear from the stats presented that anti-gankers are killing Eve and CONCORD needs to be nerfed into the ground.

Concord is retribution, not protection.

Tangent:
I really, really, oh so love the weekend tourists in Null.

15 days.

Apparently there's this huge problem of newbies being griefed out of the game.

If you read the NPC corp thread people are equating this 1% ganked statistic to the 90% that drops out of game.

Look. To do noob stats you have to consider - We get WoW refugees who think they're God's gift to gaming. They're gonna be real smart and head right off into null sec and show them "wannabees" what a real gamer can do! Why, all this talk about EVE being hard is the whining of people who suck at gaming. I'm a BIG DOG in WoW. I'll be one HERE, TOO. They click that warning pop up, jump into that system and last all of about five seconds. THEN, back they come to the starter system begging for ISK.

There's a lot of these ... people. Counting their losses is more of a mental health issue than a state of our game issue.

Just thought I'd mention this.

I'd add also you have to consider people doing the free trial are doing just that - trying out the game. If at the end of it they don't sub, that's not the same as losing a player. You can tell by Rookie Chat chatter most of them are in over their heads. The game requires way more thought than they planned on giving their new game. Another feature of EVE that makes it what it is - it requires commitment, and folks doing a free trial aren't as a rule committed to anything...yet.

I roll three rookie toons once a year and do time in Rookie Chat answering questions and offering assistance. Most recently I did this two weeks ago. The telling comments are:

"This is harder than I thought it was going to be."
"This is going to take more time than I thought it would."
And, we can't leave out, "This game is GREAT! I LOVE IT!"

These THREE things one must take into consideration if one intends to interpret statistics with regard to new players staying, or going.

Yay, stats with no background. I love them because you can interpret them any way you want!

Here we go!

The stats are bad news. If newbies aren't dying to gankers one can surmise that they are not leaving stations or exploring much of EvE. This would mean the new player experience is extremely lacking to the point a new player doesn't stick around long enough to die to a ganker. They die to Concord in hi-sec, but never leave hi-sec.

All of these are as supportable as any other guess as to what the stats mean.

Lies, statistics and lies.

Those stats clearly show's that carriers and supercarriers are ruining the game.

Also, the forums should be nerfed, too many people spend too much time on it, instead of in-game.

Anti gankers are merely protecting highsec commerce from null interdiction efforts. Perfectly in line with the concepts of the game.

For the purposes of this soon-to-be threadnaught, it doesn't matter. CCP could tell us exactly what they mean down to the tiniest detail and there will still be arguments for days. You'll still have the usual suspects in here making it all about NPC corps, ganking, bumping, bluesec, wardecs, etc, etc, etc.

I suspect this is a CCP troll.

Anyway, I'm off to get the popper out of the cupboard. Shall I make a little extra?

Mr Epeen

if my math is correct, that means in reality, 9000% percent of players are quitting because of grieving.