EVE General Discussion

Don't worry Hengle: the sun shines brighter after Rain

I could really get behind this tbh, maybe do it in a GW sort of style where the tournament made character cannot enter new eden proper an is restricted to tournament areas, given a set amount of SP upon creation to be allocated as seen fit, a game within a game sort of thing.

the worst that will happen is it fails, the best is it brings a lot of new players and actually makes alot of twitch streams interesting to watch.

Nice idea rain

Get this instance shilling dingbat out of here.
You will not, in any way, drain numbers away from my sandbox universe to a short attention span insect-brained version of instanced pvp.
The whole point of EvE combat is that it takes place in a sprawling setting where every loss or victory has consequences to the whole world.
So no, just no.

EVE is an esport in the way synchronised swimming is a sport: floating around looking pretty whilst bemused observers wonder what the hell they're watching.

No longer.
I said win or lose I won't be running again.

(If you had tournaments all over the place it would cheapen them. No longer, would they be exclusive annual events. Before long, loads of people would be doing these arrange matches for quick "gud fytes" instead of going out and doing something long term or having the anticipation of a hunt.
It would severely down grade EVE.)

Whatever, hengle, because you're just so hungry for PVP right

It's not like tournament participants can affect you either. They're there to participate in loss for sport, so.

I blinked at the screen because I didn't know what to make of it.

yeah, but changing a large focus of the game to suit a different demographics interests IS bad for the game. hell, when themepark MMOs became standard and WoW ruled them all, SOE decided that the best way to make SWG "more fun and interesting to more people" was to introduce a level cap, remove 90% of the proffessions and condense the remaining proffessions into strict distinct "classes" at character creation (basically took a skill system like EVE and turned it into WoW), they also removed much of the open world pvp mechanics in favor of raids and "epic loot huntz".

now this took place over 3-4 years, and every time subscribers would drop, SOE would keep saying "its a good change, just wait and see", and eventually, there was no one left for SOE to sell hype to and the game was shut down.

granted one thing CCP has over SOE is it at least acknowledges that the customers are the ones who give them money, SOE when players voiced a complaint or staged an ingame protest, took longterm and/or permabans as the go to option

no, but they arent a regular thing. for regular tournaments to even have attendance, CCP has to start pushing it, Esport means thats the focus, they push adn focus on "equal competitive environments" and ****.

and its not specifically JUST tournaments, my gripe was the arguement was "esports are popular, make EVE esportable", my arguement was, making changes to a game just to suit whatever is the gaming demographics fancy this week is setting a company up to fail, constantly NOT being able to keep development up to "whats popular".

EVE already has a niche the gameplay caters to.

not to mention, the majority of esports players i know also fall under the "instant gratification" crowd, and wouldnt particiapte in EVE tournmanets unless they were ALL like the alliance one, in that they dont even have to undock just get teleported over to the arena with all their ****, and thats instancing, and thats bad